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2016-01-19 Britain

'Trump paving way for Clinton's victory'

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Posted by Fred 2016-01-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Wait... Why don't they cut out the middleman and ban Hillary?

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 00:11|| 2016-01-19 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Geller: The Nation That Gave the World the Magna Carta Is Dead

H/T Instaprof. Once again, it was the Left that killed it as they seek to kill all of Western Civ.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-01-19 08:12|| 2016-01-19 08:12|| Front Page Top

#3 So... I went over the slashdot when rantburg was down this morning... there's a thread over there on Trump Says he'd make Apple build computers in the US.

Funny thing is, while still not liking Trump all that much... I dislike the zeitgeist there even more... they have fantasies and lies stacked on fantasies and lies, that American manufacturing is impossible, and that they'll all magically still have jobs after the last of it is gone.

They'll mesh "and we all know Apple would go bankrupt if they made stuff here" with "and that stupid idiot doesn't even know the Mac Pro is built here..."

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 13:38|| 2016-01-19 13:38|| Front Page Top

#4 So the fact that they can mesh together "Trump = You know Who" with "Trump = Ross Perot Style Spoiler" shouldn't be surprising. Heck, with Perot the last time around, there were SF novels with a disguised Perot as the evil-dictator-wannabe villain.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 13:40|| 2016-01-19 13:40|| Front Page Top

#5 The world's not gonna need HP or Apple or even Linux if the market's going to be mainly Android phones or tablets or PC's made in China with a made-in-China BIOS and binary blobs.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 13:43|| 2016-01-19 13:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Thing, you're still gonna need something with some heft in the server rooms...on the back end. You can't handle corporate data bases with an iPhone...yet. The problem is how can you trust a computer made in China? You gonna certify every little chip in every little box? It's madness.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-19 15:28|| 2016-01-19 15:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Ebbang: Fortune: China’s Tianhe-2 machine once again leads the world as the most powerful supercomputer, according to researchers.

Not that you can trust it, but if we don't have stuff made here, something we can trust won't be an option.

Lenovo already owns IBM's server group, and has their own custom BIOSes that we don't have the source code to.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 15:40|| 2016-01-19 15:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Not that you can trust it, but if we don't have stuff made here, something we can trust won't be an option.

That's what bothers me. It's been bothering me for a long time. Am I the only one? Maybe not. Maybe that's what bothers Trump. I think it should bother anyone who has any sense, just like Muslim immigration.

But if we have 40-50 percent of our labor force out of work maybe some of them would consider working for less instead of sitting on their butts and relying on EBT cards.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-19 16:17|| 2016-01-19 16:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Something is clearly wrong here and I don't think it's Trump.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-19 16:19|| 2016-01-19 16:19|| Front Page Top

#10 Ebbang: the cost of employing someone is north of twice as much as their actual salary. Worker's comp, liability, unemployment insurance, etc... it all adds up. Heck, is it time for me to mention stuff like the Now Mandatory Health Insurance?

At the threading plant I was working at until recently... a 12.50/hr welder's helper cost about 30.00/hr when hired through a temporary labor agency.

It's an immense stack of private and public taxes the Mandarin Class has stuck on top of the American Working Class. The average worker gets less than half of what you have to pay to get his labor.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 16:49|| 2016-01-19 16:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Let me put that another way: if the Average American Worker worked for you for free, ate from the local charitable food bank and slept under a bridge in order to do so, your labor costs would only go down 40%. And all the good bridges and overpasses are already taken.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-19 16:55|| 2016-01-19 16:55|| Front Page Top

#12 I think that, instead of worrying about gun control, black lives matter and safe spaces we need to have a national discussion about why American workers cannot compete with their Chinese counterparts. I'm not saying it's the workers' fault. But if it's so much cheaper for a worker to live and work in China, why is that? And if China is abusing it's workers then why do we trade with them? We didn't trade with the Soviets. We used to be concerned about human rights and opposed to tyranny. Not so much anymore. Now it's all about the bottom line no matter what.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-19 18:38|| 2016-01-19 18:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Snowy Thing, et al: being tops in the world in supercomputing is a fleeting moment of eminence. My baby brother is involved in that game, and builds a new machine every three years, when the old one slips in the rankings.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-01-19 20:51|| 2016-01-19 20:51|| Front Page Top

#14 But if it's so much cheaper for a worker to live and work in China, why is that?

For the same reason you would rather live and work in a nice neighbourhood than in the slums, even though the slums are considerably cheaper.

I have friends who lived in the expat neighbourhood outside Beijing during the bird flu panic. The houses were large, American style properties and the community was gated and guarded, but my girlfriend still sent to America for her meds. She said there was no way of knowing if what she bought at the neighbourhood pharmacy was the unexpired product listed on the label, relabeled expired product, or run-off from the factories on the other side of town poured into used containers. When Mr. Wife was not dying of amoebic dysentary in India, his local colleagues picked up his medicines and needles at the private pharmacy used by the elites for their personal use, as the meds provided by the hospital were often tap water, and the needles reused.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-01-19 21:18|| 2016-01-19 21:18|| Front Page Top

#15 tw, if it's that bad they are indeed abusing their workers.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2016-01-19 21:26|| 2016-01-19 21:26|| Front Page Top

#16 tw, if it's that bad they are indeed abusing their workers.

Abu Uluque, up through the 1930s the watchword for comsumers in the U.S. was also caveat emptor, let the buyer beware. The wise housewife brought her own grain to the mller to be ground into flour, and watched as it was done. The FDA originally inspected and certified the purity and wholesomeness of basic food products like flour and spices, copying a similar innovation in England. Periodically even now it is discovered that paprika powder from Hungary, imported to America, was deliberately cut with lead oxide, or was accidentally contaminated by salmonella. Such inspections, and the trust -- not to mention improved health -- it engenders, requires not only a cultural shift but a great deal of money to set up and run.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-01-19 21:56|| 2016-01-19 21:56|| Front Page Top

#17 "The Nation that gave the World the Magna Carta is Dead" > It'll be Islamic, + Islamic by virtue of its own domestic policies + political decisions.

ITSA QUESTION MARK IFF AMERIKA UNDER OWG NAU, WHERE THE FORMER "AMERICAN DREAM" IS NOW THE "AMERIKAN DREAM" ANDOR "NORTH AMERICAN/
AMERIKAN DREAM" IN P-A-R ALONGSIDE MEXICO, CANADA, + GREENLAND, WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE ANGLO/BRITANISTAN FOR THE BRITISH.

Forget about OWG-NWO = Space Govt-Order, as Assorted Islamic or Islamist Clerics have said Deep Space travel is NOT for the Muslim Faithful. A good Muslim's duty is to stay here on Earth forever where his future descendants + goats can watch the Sun go "Red Giant" or Nova, + be consumed by the Solar fire along wid the entire Earth + Humanity.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2016-01-19 22:49|| 2016-01-19 22:49|| Front Page Top

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