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Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Quarter of Republicans think Cruz's birthplace disqualifies him for president

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Posted by gorb 2016-01-15 12:29|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 So poll is really about how much Americans know about the Constitution.

An intelligent poll would've asked ... No, never mind. I can't finish that question.

Posted by Bobby 2016-01-15 13:02|| 2016-01-15 13:02|| Front Page Top

#2 So poll is really about how much Americans know about the Constitution.

Yep. And what happens if this 25% of the voters change their vote based on an incorrect idea? Better get this ironed out in their minds before we get there.

Posted by gorb 2016-01-15 13:09|| 2016-01-15 13:09|| Front Page Top

#3 So, Cruz definitely is NOT a naturalized citizen that would be part of the public record. So, If he's not a native born citizen a) what is he? b) how can he be a senator if he's not a citizen?

These people are insane.

Posted by AlanC 2016-01-15 13:14|| 2016-01-15 13:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Citizenship is not a requirement of any elected federal office other than President.

Cut them some slack. They've been repeated told that anyone born in the borders of the US, regardless of origin is a anchor baby American citizen. Now they're being told someone born in Canada is not a Canadian citizen.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-01-15 13:43|| 2016-01-15 13:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Cruz, a U.S. Senator from Texas who was born to a U.S. citizen mother and Cuban father in Calgary, Alberta.

I think the spread of origin pretty much makes him a 'NorteAmericano'.

Unlike Mitt Romney.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-01-15 13:54|| 2016-01-15 13:54|| Front Page Top

#6 Procopius2k, Vice President and Speaker of the House or whomever is next in line for the Presidency have the same requirements as the President.

I think Gorb nailed it (#2). Doesn't really matter what the constitution says if enough people believe the wrong thing. Cruz should have run this all the way through the Supreme before the primaries because its obvious the Democrats would use it against him.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-01-15 14:44|| 2016-01-15 14:44|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't believe the courts will accept a case before an alleged violation has occurred. Cruz would have to be elected before someone can contest his election as invalid. Am I wrong?

Posted by Glenmore 2016-01-15 15:59|| 2016-01-15 15:59|| Front Page Top

#8 "Cruz would have to be elected before someone can contest his election as invalid. Am I wrong?"
I think you're right. Leaving an issue this important unsettled is a steaming pile of BS, and should have been clarified / corrected 200 or more years ago. This is far more important than the shadow of a penumbra.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2016-01-15 16:16|| 2016-01-15 16:16|| Front Page Top

#9 And beyond the three positions that are directly in line for the President there is nothing else with that same demand? Meaning your f-d if you status is at all in question and the electorate is opinionated and semi-ignorant.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-01-15 17:36|| 2016-01-15 17:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Consider a military dependent born in a hospital in Germany. The family is there because they are stationed there. Is that kid barred from being a US President?

Please.

The US law defines a child born to a US citizen overseas as a natural US citizen. This is smoke and mirrors.

One of the things I stressed to my kids growing up is just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. Trump shouldn't have set off this stink bomb.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-15 18:12|| 2016-01-15 18:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Consider a military dependent born in a hospital in Germany. The family is there because they are stationed there. Is that kid barred from being a US President?

When we were civilian expats in Germany, I was told that if my child was born in a hospital on an American military base, there was no issue -- that counts as US soil. But if my child was born in a German hospital, while she (it was trailing daughter #2) was automatically an American citizen because she had at least one American parent who was born on American soil, if she did not marry an American-born American citizen, then if her children were not born on American soil they would not inherit her American citizenship.

This is the same rule that held for John McCain (born on a US military base in Panama) and Barack Hussein Obama (had he been born in Kenya as he claimed for years before he claimed otherwise).

Posted by trailing wife 2016-01-15 18:28|| 2016-01-15 18:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Cruz would have to be elected before someone can contest his election as invalid.

I think that you are correct. The U.S. Supreme Court is an appellant court. A lower court would have to rule and that ruling appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Someone would need standing to sue. Until the "crime" is committed nobody could prove harm which is required for standing to sue. I am not a lawyer and that one constitutional law class that I took was a long time ago.

I believe that the law is on Cruz's side and if it came before the courts they would quickly rule in his favor.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-15 18:42|| 2016-01-15 18:42|| Front Page Top

#13 If you are born to an American anywhere, You are a Naturalized Citizen. It is as easy as that. This stupid conversation ends right at the Constitution, right now.

Shut Up Trump.

Posted by newc 2016-01-15 20:21|| 2016-01-15 20:21|| Front Page Top

#14 This whole thing is a fart in windstorm. TC is a natural born US cit. The law on this is pretty clear and has been for decades. He was born abroad in wedlock to an American citizen mother who met the requirements for transmission of citizenship to her son (TC). End of flippin story. I'm embarrassed that 47% of the survey population is brain dead and cannot spend 10 minutes researching this. Does not bode well for our future.

Posted by Bangkok Billy 2016-01-15 20:38|| 2016-01-15 20:38|| Front Page Top

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