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2014-04-11 -Land of the Free
US senator joins critics of federal cattle roundup
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Posted by Fred 2014-04-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Where does Harry Reid stand on this situation ? Isn't he from out there? It is obvious that the US govt. WILL if they think they can. Let's shoot our own people over some cows. Let's kill some voters because we can.

What is your citizenship worth in the land of the Free? The tyrants are always there...the only thing that stops them is fear of the citizenry. Rebellion is a right like so many others. You only are free if you are willing to fight.

Harry Reid is a beltway insider. he is not your friend.
Posted by Big Thromoth3646 2014-04-11 06:37||   2014-04-11 06:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Saw an interesting photo article yesterday where the Bureau of Land Managment was routed by the public, despite guns drawn and violent harassment
(By the cops) the people were loud and right, with the cops leaving (en mass, 8-10 cars) when they couldn't cow the gathered people and make them leave despite the LAW having sevral Police Dogs (On leashes), Police ORDERED the PEOPLE to leave and several people told the Police NO, and accused the cops of harrasssment.

The cops were clearly out of line here, watch for the whole thing to be quietly suppressed.

Peoople will NOT stand for this.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2014-04-11 08:05||   2014-04-11 08:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Where does Harry Reid stand on this situation ?

How did someone in public service all his life become a millionaire? Go check on the water rights of the area. Someone is going to tap them as soon as the 'prior use' of the land is terminated making it accessible for others.
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-04-11 08:27||   2014-04-11 08:27|| Front Page Top

#4 What does the farmer need? Obvious: "He needs a punch in the jaw if he believes that either of the parties cares a damn about him after the election"
~ Will Rogers

Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-11 09:05||   2014-04-11 09:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Reid commented two days ago he is in favor of the BLM.

The people stopped a convoy of feds coming off range because there was a dump truck and a back hoe coming off the range. That meant they were killing and burying the cattle.
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 09:32||   2014-04-11 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 ...that is why the cowboys broke through the federal blockade later in the day yesterday. To start trying to save the cattle.
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 10:07||   2014-04-11 10:07|| Front Page Top

#7 There should be a way to force the BLM to divest its ownership of these large swaths of territory in the west.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-11 10:50||   2014-04-11 10:50|| Front Page Top

#8 I agree OS. A Benefit-cost analysis (BCA) is long over due. I doubt it will happen however. Think of the evil, carbon fracking and dirty domestic oil production that could potentially ensue. Quick thinking men in Washington will save us from this nightmare.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-11 10:58||   2014-04-11 10:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Supposedly Bundy actually owns some land that some connected people (Reid?) want and he wasn't selling, so they needed to make him more willing, make him an offer he couldn't refuse (insert dead horse head in bed photo here.)
Posted by Glenmore 2014-04-11 11:27||   2014-04-11 11:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Where does Harry Reid stand on this situation ?

Well he is a big supporter of cowboy poetry.

Look, cows are either calving or have some young ones. Not done right, the calves will die. If those federali have those cows bunched up with no shade or breeze or water then they die to. It is my default that the people in charge of seizing the cattle are only used to stepping in their own bullshit.
Posted by swksvolFF 2014-04-11 11:37||   2014-04-11 11:37|| Front Page Top

#11 OldSpook is on to the larger issue: Federal ownership of land in the West is much higher (for various historical reasons) than east of the Mississippi.

There would be a number of benefits from a planned careful sell-off of these Federal lands. Keep Yosemite and Yellowstone, but a fair bit of the land is just that -- land. Sell it to the ranchers, farmers, timber industry etc., and let them make it productive (and tax accordingly). Long term it would be a win-win for the country.
Posted by Steve White 2014-04-11 11:47||   2014-04-11 11:47|| Front Page Top

#12 The regime brings in hired guns, which did not work out yesterday for the BLM.

Conversation with an out of state ranger: “‘Well, well,’ and he goes, ‘I don’t even want to be here. Do you think my grandfather’s proud of me? You think I like this? You think this is fun for me?’”
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 12:44||   2014-04-11 12:44|| Front Page Top

#13 @ Bubba Graiting8281 - Sounds like a Nuremburg-type defense to me. (Yeah, I know, the first person to reference the Original Nazi's (TM) looses.).
Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-04-11 12:50||   2014-04-11 12:50|| Front Page Top

#14 That's where you, as a sworn soldier or agent, have to stand up and deliberately refuse to obey what you believe is a wrong and illegal (Unconstitutional) order. Oaths should mean something. Enough do that and the tinpot dictators lose their power nonviolently. Otherwise it will come down to blood- ours first and theirs later as they swing from a noose.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-11 13:36||   2014-04-11 13:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Conversation with an out of state ranger: 'Well, well,' and he goes, �'I don't even want to be here. Do you think my grandfather's proud of me? You think I like this? You think this is fun for me?'"
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281

Sorry GI, same rantings could be heard from any upscale whore house in Uijeongbu. You want sympathy? You'll find it somewhere between shi* and syphilis in Webster's. Have a super day.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-11 14:11||   2014-04-11 14:11|| Front Page Top

#16 "We're just tryin' to herd us some sheep,"
Whined the Boss to his scattergun Veep.
From their hustler's roost,
Humble sheepmen vamoosed
While the ranchers were still fast asleep.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-04-11 15:57||   2014-04-11 15:57|| Front Page Top

#17 The flyover Western dominion,
Bewildering to the Presidium,
Again sees Leviathan
Send forth Goliath and
Pound David into oblivion.

Meh. Phoning it in today. Reality impinges.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-04-11 16:01||   2014-04-11 16:01|| Front Page Top

#18 I read an article today that indicates the State and Fed are in negotiations to drill on this land as well. I do believe there's a lot more to this than cows and turtles...
Posted by 49 Pan 2014-04-11 16:20||   2014-04-11 16:20|| Front Page Top

#19 DrudgeReport.com: Senator Reid and the Chinese Government want to take over the Bundy Ranch build a solar farm.
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 16:22||   2014-04-11 16:22|| Front Page Top

#20 Others are reporting Reid is involved, with his son, in a solar energy project slated for that land as well...
Posted by 49 Pan 2014-04-11 16:23||   2014-04-11 16:23|| Front Page Top

#21 The head of the Federal BLM was a senior advisor to Reid. There must be a lot of money in there somewhere for Reid and Co. from the Chinese Government.
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 16:25||   2014-04-11 16:25|| Front Page Top

#22 A stubborn cowboy just took down the most powerful elected official in the Senate.
Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-04-11 16:51||   2014-04-11 16:51|| Front Page Top

#23 (Yeah, I know, the first person to reference the Original Nazi's (TM) looses.).

That only counts when it comes to name-calling and straw man arguments. Referencing actual historical events gets you a pass.
Posted by SteveS 2014-04-11 17:47||   2014-04-11 17:47|| Front Page Top

#24 Turtles? According to the BLM logic, its government turtles all the way down.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-11 18:01||   2014-04-11 18:01|| Front Page Top

#25 They're all post turtles.
Posted by Glenmore 2014-04-11 20:02||   2014-04-11 20:02|| Front Page Top

#26 They just shut down the cel towers to cut comms. I was rather neutral on this. Now I'm not so sure. This will go down like Waco and Ruby Ridge. The feds will use force, the ranchers will fight back. A delegation of leaders from Arizona is heading that way to try and diffuse this. I doubt they will do any good. I get the same feeling as when you walk to a fight, its gonna happen, good or bad.
Posted by 49 Pan 2014-04-11 20:19||   2014-04-11 20:19|| Front Page Top

#27 #25 They're all post turtles.
Posted by: Glenmore 2014-04-11 20:02

Good one!
Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-04-11 20:40||   2014-04-11 20:40|| Front Page Top

#28 

Out of state groups begin arriving to support Rancher.
Posted by Wholuck Panda7955 2014-04-11 23:39||   2014-04-11 23:39|| Front Page Top

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