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2014-01-27

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Posted by 2014-01-27 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1
Kinda looks like gasoline, now don't it!

Do your patriotic duty and invest in a homebrewing machine and set America back on the road to energy independence.

Posted by Fat Bob Cravirt7854 2014-01-27 02:21|| 2014-01-27 02:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Greeny nonsense.

LPG and CNG vehicles are the answer. There are at least 10 million on the road. Hardly rocket science.

Posted by phil_b 2014-01-27 05:17|| 2014-01-27 05:17|| Front Page Top

#3 All may not be so rosy.

Posted by tipper 2014-01-27 05:24|| 2014-01-27 05:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Why it has taken 40 years to finally do what the department of energy was created and tasked to do is beyond comprehension. We should not be sending any money to corrupt regimes. North America has plenty of oil and gas and the technology experts to exploit it for our benefit. We lack leadership and long-term vision. The mid-east produces nothing but terrorism; bleed them dry.

Posted by Airandee 2014-01-27 06:47|| 2014-01-27 06:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Fracking has a really big problem; namely for some yet unknown reason, the crude from this, especially the Bakken crude has a greater possibility of exploding in the case of a rail derailment and the tank cars are punctured. so far this year 5 major derailments and if you include the Canadian runaway train debacle 47 deaths due to this. The Railroads and the gov't are actively seeking the cause ans while it is known the tank cars built to conform to DOT111 standard have been OK for conventional crude, they are not working for fracked crude. And upgrading to the DOT 112 or 114 standard may not be economical. Railcar manufacturers currently have a backlog into 2016.

Posted by USN,Ret. ontheroad 2014-01-27 08:44|| 2014-01-27 08:44|| Front Page Top

#6 No method of transport is safer or more economical than a pipeline.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-01-27 08:46|| 2014-01-27 08:46|| Front Page Top

#7 Almost 100 years ago:
ARDMORE GAS EXPLOSION
The casinghead gasoline explosion that occurred September 27, 1915, at Ardmore, in Carter County, Oklahoma, was the deadliest and most destructive of any up to that time. Casinghead gasoline, or natural gasoline, is collected from natural gas at the casinghead of an oil or gas well. The product was generally shipped to refineries by rail.

On September 26, 1915, a railroad car carrying casinghead gasoline arrived in Ardmore at the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railway depot. There the car was left until it could be taken to a nearby refinery. The next day the temperature quickly rose, activating the car's pop-off valve, designed to release gas pressure. Gas began to pour out and into the low-lying areas of downtown Ardmore. The train conductor refused to move the car because of a fire at a nearby asphaltum plant. The Ardmore Refining Company then sent a representative, who removed the dome from the top of the car, filling the air with gas and vapors. At 2:20 p.m. on September 27 an explosion, triggered by an unidentified source (or maybe not unidentified - From the news "It developed today that there was but one workman employed in repairing the tank car in the Santa Fe railroad yards, when a spark from his hammer ignited the gasoline and resulted in an explosion as terrific as an equal quantity of dynamite. The workman was Ira Woods, employed by a refinery company. Bits of his body were found many yards from the scene of the explosion.), destroyed most of downtown Ardmore.

Many people were injured, and forty-three people were killed. A district grand jury and a local coroner's jury found the Santa Fe Railway at fault.

After the Ardmore disaster new rules were put into effect regulating statewide shipment of casinghead gasoline.

Posted by Glenmore 2014-01-27 10:02|| 2014-01-27 10:02|| Front Page Top

#8 USN, it is not the fracking that is causing the issue. It is the lack of natural gas pipelines in the Bakken. This is being remedied, but the problem is too many light ends being put into the rail cars, which lowers the flash point of the oil.

Posted by remoteman 2014-01-27 13:34|| 2014-01-27 13:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Still think we should have invested in biodiesel long ago and turned all that extra french-fry greese into powering all those SUVs Americans like. Put in a $100 heater on your engine and it works up in the frozen north as well.

Put solar panels on every rooftop in the southwest and we could power the southwest and probably a lot farther.

Small self-contained nuclear reactors like the kind the Japanese could power the remaining areas with clean power.

If Bush had instituted these three ideas on Sept 12 the bulk of the War on Terror would be over by now as funding from Saudi Arabia would have been reduced to a trickle and we'd be hitting all of the Kyoto targets by accident without crippling our economy.

Posted by rjschwarz 2014-01-27 14:55|| 2014-01-27 14:55|| Front Page Top

#10 Remoteman, I agree, and while the volatiles in the Bakken crude do seem to be different, the experts haven't yet gotten their arms around the scope of it. I have only been reading oil train logistics as a sidebar to the furball going on here in the Pac NW over the dreaded coal trains. but there is something going on that is specific to the Bakken crude. And to Beoseker's pipeline point, there is evidence that piplines have their share of spills however they are usually in remote areas, so less potential to hame people. and the current pipline invnetory run north-south, and the coastal refineries want the Bakken crude as it is cheaper than middle east oil, even figuring in the added transport costs. And it will be at least 10 years before Keystone pipeline comes on line, if ever, thanks to the ever decisive Waffler-in-Chief.

Posted by USN,Ret. ontheroad 2014-01-27 18:05|| 2014-01-27 18:05|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm really sorry, guys -- I have no idea what happened to the articles Brer Rabbit and I posted, and I can't remember where I found mine, to resubmit it. I looked everywhere I can think of, but clearly i was more creative than usual with this one.... and this morning I cleared my history because the iPad was running a bit slowly.

All I remember was that the author suggested that we need to break the Gulf oil companies now because the oil from fracking will peter out within a decade.

Posted by trailing wife 2014-01-27 22:06|| 2014-01-27 22:06|| Front Page Top

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