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2013-09-22 Government
Quinn: I'd Consider Using National Guard, State Police To HelpĀ Chicago
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Posted by Fred 2013-09-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top

#1 Wrong. Your poor Lawcraft placed a vacuum in security for the Public. Military guard is an admission of failure of a ... AHEM.... Different type.
Posted by newc 2013-09-22 00:12||   2013-09-22 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 I would consider using napalm.
Posted by DarthVader 2013-09-22 00:31||   2013-09-22 00:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Napalm is bad PR. IPCM are where the action is.
Posted by Shipman 2013-09-22 00:49||   2013-09-22 00:49|| Front Page Top

#4 HEH!
Posted by newc 2013-09-22 01:08||   2013-09-22 01:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Emanuel, appearing at St. Sabina's later in the day, did not take news hounds' questions and walked off after making a statement about the event there, a basketball "Peace Tournament" featuring NBA stars.

This'll work. But they gotta play at Midnight...
Posted by tu3031 2013-09-22 01:16||   2013-09-22 01:16|| Front Page Top

#6 Many months ago I proposed to same solution to some friends. And I'm no genius by any means.

How hard is is to deploy the Illinois National Guard to go block by block, cleaning out the vermin, and taking the city back?
Posted by Mikey Hunt 2013-09-22 02:01||   2013-09-22 02:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Mike Kunt, this is a very bad plan.
Posted by newc 2013-09-22 02:35||   2013-09-22 02:35|| Front Page Top

#8 Quinn is only running on a couple of cylinders. Problem is Pubs keep choosing folks off the rails to run for gov.
Posted by 3dc 2013-09-22 02:54||   2013-09-22 02:54|| Front Page Top

#9 cleaning out the vermin

"Are you now, or have you ever been a potential son of Baraq Hussein Obama?"
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-22 05:23||   2013-09-22 05:23|| Front Page Top

#10 IPCM? Integrated Pest and Creep Management?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-09-22 08:06||   2013-09-22 08:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Chicago gummint and the gangbangers are joined at the hip. This same story ended so well in Detroit...
Posted by M. Murcek 2013-09-22 08:41||   2013-09-22 08:41|| Front Page Top

#12 ..and they'll pay for the guard with what, script? They're bankrupt. If they use fed dollars, they can't be used via Posse Commitatus short of the Insurrection Act which would be an admission they've lost control [even though they have]. Remember for the Donks, its form over substance. It's a public display of abject failure. Better to save face and let hundreds die ["what difference does it make"] than to admit they are unqualified to hold public trust and power. Looting the sheep taxpayers is what its all about, as it is in any oligarchy.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-22 08:51||   2013-09-22 08:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Should be quite interesting when the guard begins to take a few casualties and the ROE [Rules of Engagement] will not permit returning fire without PID [Positive ID].

Wheels..... falling off the urban, 'war on poverty' dream.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-22 09:01||   2013-09-22 09:01|| Front Page Top

#14 The leftist love affair with urbanism is like all leftist love affairs: based on a mirage. The magical urban centers leftists imagine are all gay-run cupcake shoppes and art galleries. There are buskers and mass transit that is not a fiscal black hole smelling of urine. Lots of brown wimmins people working at high paying finance jobs in skyscrapers...
Posted by M. Murcek 2013-09-22 09:06||   2013-09-22 09:06|| Front Page Top

#15 Repeal the minimum wage, cut all welfare and start opening sweat shops. Make these people work for their bread a circuses and then they'll be too tired for gang banging.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2013-09-22 10:51||   2013-09-22 10:51|| Front Page Top

#16 No rifles.
Reflective belts
Only patrol leader has mags for small arms.
Reflective belts.
Need permission from panel of lawyers, then a judge in order to engage a situation outside of patroling.
Reflective belts.
Your face plastored all over the news if you engage somebody in a hoodie.

vs.

300lb professional criminals smoking rock and shrugging tasers like so many gnats.

Better define the mission, especially using Military vs. civilians in a pre-determined not natural disaster emergency. Basketball tourny wtf? already have my doubts about the seriousness of leadership. Maybe part of the problem is nobody seems to be doing serious anymore except the bad guys. Unless its disarming good guys, then leaders seem to get serious. No, the problem is leadership or more specific lack there-of. Calling in the troops to make sure ballpark fans make it home is an empty scabbard tell.

I'm not saying it should not be done, but there should be a method for deploying troops against civilians, and State Police is different from National Guard, and don't do it if it does not solve the problem.
Posted by swksvolFF 2013-09-22 10:59||   2013-09-22 10:59|| Front Page Top

#17 You don't try to make a tumor comfortable. Cut it out or let the patient die...
Posted by M. Murcek 2013-09-22 11:39||   2013-09-22 11:39|| Front Page Top

#18 Your poor Lawcraft placed a vacuum in security for the Public

If by "lawcraft" you mean the siphoning of millions of dollars by Chicago pols over the decades. then yes. It's a gang-town; pretty much has been one for over a century.

He said he's had no specific conversations but noted state police are helping patrol in East St. Louis, another city that has its challenges with violent crime

And Hartford, CT, plus on occasion a number of other reliably-blue cities. Some reliably-blue cities in California have a combination of at least two law-enforcement agencies patrolling.

Must be a reason. Darned if I can think of it.
Posted by Pappy 2013-09-22 12:27||   2013-09-22 12:27|| Front Page Top

#19 Oooooh! Ooooh! *raises hand*
Posted by Frank G 2013-09-22 12:44||   2013-09-22 12:44|| Front Page Top

#20 Chicago police union just won a raise from the city.
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-22 13:55||   2013-09-22 13:55|| Front Page Top

#21 As has been noted before in this space, (P2K and others) this is the evolution of the Urban-Non-Urban interface, where extortion draws the productive money from outside the urban sumps into the never-ending demand for entitlements and senseless programs/policies. Sadly, this is fed by the learned American aversion to confronting the racial component and consequent acceptance of the tariff by productive society. It is a devolving curve and the current President and administration have accelerated the decline. I cannot find an projected outcome that doesn't have very nasty consequences.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2013-09-22 14:16||   2013-09-22 14:16|| Front Page Top

#22 #21 nails it. It's Danegeld all the way down...
Posted by M. Murcek 2013-09-22 17:41||   2013-09-22 17:41|| Front Page Top

#23 Wall up the most crime ridden blocks and send in snake pliscan.
Posted by airandee 2013-09-22 20:04||   2013-09-22 20:04|| Front Page Top

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