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2013-09-19 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' At Mass Shooting Scene

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Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Mmmmkay...in my ideal world, some actual, y' know, investigative journalists would dig up the source of the stannd-down order. Along with, I dunno, a little delving into the background, governmental connections and political associations of the gunman's shrink(s). And why not a look at the shrinks who treated the shooters from Aurora and Newtown, too...these "random" events and the immediate political/media anti-2nd Amendment feeding frenzies that follow them seem just a little too damn convenient.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2013-09-19 01:16|| 2013-09-19 01:16|| Front Page Top

#2 The Capitol Police Board responded by establishing what it called a "Fact Review Team", led by Michael Stenger, a former assistant director of the US Secret Service.

"Fact Review Team".....? Is that anything like an "Accountability Review Board" ?

Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-19 03:16|| 2013-09-19 03:16|| Front Page Top

#3 "Fact Review Team".....? Is that anything like an "Accountability Review Board" ?

What is not seen---or, at least, covered in a huge mound of irrelevant detail---doesn't exists.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-19 03:27|| 2013-09-19 03:27|| Front Page Top

#4 But g(r)om.... what difference does it make ?

Forget those 3000 peons in 197, you have royalty to protect! Now get your as*es back over here.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-19 03:32|| 2013-09-19 03:32|| Front Page Top

#5 And why not a look at the shrinks who treated the shooters from Aurora and Newtown, too...these "random" events and the immediate political/media anti-2nd Amendment feeding frenzies that follow them seem just a little too damn convenient.

This thought has crossed my mind.

Posted by Omaimp Speans2464 2013-09-19 08:45|| 2013-09-19 08:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Tinfoil time?

Posted by Iblis 2013-09-19 10:34|| 2013-09-19 10:34|| Front Page Top

#7 No tinfoil hat needed. Solid evidence-based medical practice pretty much requires a look at the mental health system with which these shooters had contact.

I wonder if there is a common component (or components) of psychiatric treatment that these particular psychs used - like a particular technique, modality or philosophy of treatment. It would be interesting to compare those for commonalities, and see if possibly systemic or technical issues caused a gap in treatment that the shooters managed to wiggle through. Engineers would be looking at catastrophic failures for commonalities, its how we improve bridges, boats and buildings. Why not MDs and shrinks?

Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-19 11:57|| 2013-09-19 11:57|| Front Page Top

#8 If you wanna make an omelet you gotta break a few eggs.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-09-19 12:26|| 2013-09-19 12:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Sounds like some watch commander thought this was "above his pay grade" and choked big time.

Posted by tu3031 2013-09-19 15:09|| 2013-09-19 15:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Or was 'advised' by certain persons who will never be named that the WH needs a good mass-killings to exploit.

No, no tinfoil hat this time. After Benghazi I wouldn't put anything past this administration. If (s)he* doesn't have a problem leaving 4 Americans - including the Ambassador to die I think they will have any problems with a few peons...

* - I say she because Its been suggested that Valerie Jarrett ordered Africa Command to 'stand down' and she holds Obama's leash.

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-09-19 16:26|| 2013-09-19 16:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Sounds like some watch commander thought this was "above his pay grade" and choked big time.

I'd go with the most simplistic answer: The "it's not our jurisdiction" mindset combined with "Navy Yard = Navy (D.C. Metro Police) problem."

Just another chapter in the sordid history of multi-agency law enforcement in D.C.

Posted by Pappy 2013-09-19 19:39|| 2013-09-19 19:39|| Front Page Top

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