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2013-09-06 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Fred 2013-09-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [15 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Syria

#1 See also RELATED DEFENCE/PK/FORUMS > CNN VOTE COUNT: OBAMA LONG WAY FROM CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL ON SYRIA.

and

* RUSSIA TODAY > US CONGRESS MAY VOTE "NO" TO SYRIA ATTACK, as per ThinkProgress think-tank analysis.

199-49 against the Bammer as of Thursday 09/4th

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-09-06 02:07|| 2013-09-06 02:07|| Front Page Top

#2 More ...

* TOPIX > [Journal Gazette] SYRIA ACTION WILL TAKE 217 IN THE HOUSE, 60 IN THE SENATE.

IIUC any POTUS need only resort to the Congress iff there is any possibility that US troops will be involved in military operations beyond 180 days.

I'm more worried here that the Bammer may unilaterally order a US mil response agz the wrong party-perpetrator to the chemical attack which the us claims killed up to 1429 ordinary Syrians, OVERTLY IN "GRAVE MISTAKE/ERROR" BUT COVERTLY IN SUPPORT OF THE ANTI-US, GLOBALIST AGENDA OF A OWG MULTI-POLAR WORLD WHERE THE US IS JUST ONE GLOBAL = GLOBALIST "CO-SUPERPOWER" AMONG MANY.

SEVEN CONTINENTS FOR SEVEN OWG "GLOBAL FEDERAL UNIONS" FOR SEVEN PAR GLOBAL "CO-SUPERPOWERS".

We need only look at World History, e.g. CHINA-VS-INDIA, WITHDRAWAL OF [post-Victoriana]BRITISH EMPIRE, TO SEE IFF PROTAGONIST WILL SEE WEAKNESS OR STRENGTH IN UNILATERAL, VOLUNTARY = FORCED?, STRATEGIC PULLOUT IN THE NAME OF OWG AND
"GLOBALISM".

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Economic Times] INDIAN TROOPS NOT ALLOWED BY PLA TO PATROL UP TO LAC?

* SAME > [India Today] ACTING IN GOOD FAITH, WE RESTRICTED OUR ARMY ONLY TO SEE CHINESE ALTER THE "STATUS QUO" ALONG LAC, SAYS [now retired] TOP GENERAL.

[POTUS Jimmy Carter, post-1975 USSR-Commie Bloc + RABBIT-OF-THE-APOCALYPSE here].

* WORLD NEWS > [American Spectator]OBAMA'S HALF-ASSAD WAR.

CHINA, of China-vs-Japan, PHIL, Vietnam, India, ASEAN; + IRAN are NOT Assadian Syria - "Post-US" wannabe, long-time "Nuclear Club" Member, WHY-YES-WE'VE-HAD-NUKES-N-HEAVY-ICBMS-FOR-DECADES-NOW China is neither Nuke-wannabe Iran nor Scud-happy Syria.

Apply the Bammer's alleged "lack of action/decision/responsibility", + alleged "poor or lousy leadership" in the ME to IRAN + ultimately his real test CHINA.

ASSAD'S WORST IN SYRIA DOTH NOT = IRAN, WHICH IN TURN DOTH NOT = AGZ CHINA IN THE PACIFIC + EAST-SOUTH ASIA.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-09-06 02:46|| 2013-09-06 02:46|| Front Page Top

#3 But won't?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-06 07:29|| 2013-09-06 07:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember when an open mike caught Obama telling Putin's adjutant to wait until after the election for . . . Something?

How's about this for a conspiracy theory....

The thorn in all the bad guys' side is conservative Tea Party types. Obama hates them. Boehner and McCain and the rest of the institutional Republicans do. Most of the ruling elite in the world hate them.

So....

What if the objective here is to get the House to vote this down by all of the above? Obama and the Democrats get to run against the "obstructionists", Boehner staves off assaults from his right, and Putin gets a weaker U.S.

Crazy? Maybe not.

Posted by no mo uro 2013-09-06 07:52|| 2013-09-06 07:52|| Front Page Top

#5 If this catastrophe is voted down by the House, what happens if O pulls the trigger anyway?

Does the House have to pass an "Anti-war" resolution forbidding that?

Posted by AlanC 2013-09-06 08:06|| 2013-09-06 08:06|| Front Page Top

#6 That thought occured to me.

Other thoughts: the administration is safeguarding Assad from harm by assembling an opposition that's simultaneously cruel and incompetent.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-09-06 08:10|| 2013-09-06 08:10|| Front Page Top

#7 #6 in response to No Mo Oro.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-09-06 08:10|| 2013-09-06 08:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Earlier I asked, rhetorically, what Obama would be doing differently if he were an agent provocateur for Putin.

Shipman suggested that he'd be more competent if he were.

I think that's about it.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-09-06 09:15|| 2013-09-06 09:15|| Front Page Top

#9 I keep telling you, O wants to avoid bombing Syria and his plan will allow him to blame the GOP. It's all about the 2014 elections. He's in campaign mode all the time, that's all he knows or wants to know.

Posted by Spot 2013-09-06 10:06|| 2013-09-06 10:06|| Front Page Top

#10 I hope and pray you are right Spot.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-06 10:23|| 2013-09-06 10:23|| Front Page Top

#11 James Taranto:

The other possibility is that Obama did not regard approval as a sure thing but figured that he'd win either way--that if Republicans balked, he could blame them for inaction in Syria, and if they went along with intervention, they'd share the blame for anything that went wrong.

Approaching the matter so cynically would be despicable, but in any case it is difficult to imagine Obama would get any political mileage out of being thwarted by Congress.

Methinks Mr. Taranto is being a tad pollyanish.

Posted by Pappy 2013-09-06 10:48|| 2013-09-06 10:48|| Front Page Top

#12 I agree. I think he's going to pull the trigger on this one.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-06 10:51|| 2013-09-06 10:51|| Front Page Top

#13 After the speech they gave a list of ten or so countries that are standing toe to toe with the US in demanding redress to this outrage by Syria.

Congress should consider their contributions.

Sort of reminds me of the composition of a Peace Keeping force deployed under the old Organization of American States: an MP platoon from Mexico, a medical detachment from Brazil, a construction company from Argentina, and the 82 Airborne.

Posted by Kelly 2013-09-06 11:21|| 2013-09-06 11:21|| Front Page Top

#14 Someone in congress should stand up and say that they will support Obama in the same capaicty that Kerry support the President in the early 70's and Obama supported Bush in the 2000's.

Posted by airandee 2013-09-06 11:46|| 2013-09-06 11:46|| Front Page Top

#15 I predict another "regime" chemical attack---this time more competently implemented* before 9/9.

*Posting youtube videos a day before the putative attack...

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-06 12:49|| 2013-09-06 12:49|| Front Page Top

#16 You have a choice between a Constitutional republic at home or the ascension of the Imperator over a piss-ant country like Syria. The rule of law replaced by the rule by men. Fascinating how many are willing to give up the republic to 'save face' or rationalize about saving a world that can't be saved.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-06 12:55|| 2013-09-06 12:55|| Front Page Top

#17 @grom

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/we-have-officially-jumped-shark-al-arabiya-reports-another-gas-attack-syrian-regime

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-09-06 17:24|| 2013-09-06 17:24|| Front Page Top

#18 The Red Lines Obama Chooses To Ignore

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-09-06 18:43|| 2013-09-06 18:43|| Front Page Top

#19 As per CNN, asof 0915AM Saturday 09/7th Guam time the US Senate vote is likely 24-19 in favor of the Bammer attacking Syria.

FYI at the G20 Summit, CNN AM = the Bammer repor refused to answer Reporters' questions pertaining as to whether he will still strike Syria iff the US Congress fails to authorize military action.

All the above being said ...

To wit,

* FREEREPUBLIC > [Daily Caller] OBAMA HINTS AT ABANDONING SYRIA STRIKE, iff Congress fails to authorize same.

Now that's News CHINA in East Asia, + IRAN in ME, may want to hear.

As per CHINA, SAME = [Debka] A CHINESE LANDING CRAFT WID 1000 MARINES FOR SYRIA.

* SAME > IRAN THREATENS BRUTAL ATTACKS ON AMERICANS, OBAMA'S FAMILY.

OLIVER STONE'S next POTUS Terror assassination biopic = "O", or "Obama"???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-09-06 19:54|| 2013-09-06 19:54|| Front Page Top

#20 The seriously big downside of an Obama defeat accrues to Israel. The perception of a weak US stared down by recent events will not end well in the M.E.

I wish there were a third way; Cmdr. Zero shot off his mouth and now, well, "the whole world is watching" (Gawd I hated that in the 60's etc...).

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-09-06 20:21|| 2013-09-06 20:21|| Front Page Top

#21 Latest ...

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > OBAMA'S SYRIA TIMING DELAYED BY RELUCTANCE AT HOME, ABROAD - BLOOMBERG.

* TALKING POINTS MEMO LIVEWIRE > OBAMA GIVES "NO DIRECT RESPONSE" [straight answer] ON WHETHER HE WILL ACT WIDOUT CONGRESS, i.e. attack Syria widout much ballyhooed, formal joint US Congressional authorization.

versus

* TOPIX > [Atlas Shrugs] "DID THE WHITE HOUSE [covertly] HELP PLAN THE SYRIA CHEMICAL ATTACK"?, in order to come up wid a PCorrect-Deniable cover story = excuse for anti-Assad intervention in favor the Rebels???

RELATED? DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Russia Today]PUTIN: DEADLY SYRIA CHEMICAL ATTACK WAS REBELS' {desperate + malicious] PROVOCATION HOAX TO FORCE [foreign, UNO] INTERVENTION, to preempt or preclude thier imminent defeat by Assad + SAA.

versus

* YAHOO NEWS > OBAMA HAS NO INTENTION TO STRIKE SYRIA IFF COPNGRESS SAYS "NO", SAYS AIDE.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-09-06 23:50|| 2013-09-06 23:50|| Front Page Top

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