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2013-08-17 -Lurid Crime Tales-
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Posted by Fred 2013-08-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1 Another interesting double standard. If a US military member is convicted of a felony, he or she loses pension and all. The current uproar over the murdering [yet un-convicted] MAJ Nadal Hasan is a case point. No conviction, no reduction in rank or forfeiture of pay.

As non-US citizen, you may join the US military and eventually gain US citizenship. Stay long enough to earn a retirement, no problem. Decide to renounce your US citizenship and move back to country of origin for the tax advantage or other any other reason? Your pension and benefits are relinquished as well.

As a US military retiree and you or your spouse wish to get treated at a US Military Installation medical facility abroad, your US TRICARE does not follow. Some facilities may bend the rules and permit treatment on a Space-Available basis. Want to pick up some smokes at the PX/BX or top off the tank before you leave the gate, not in Germany. US military retirees are prohibited from shopping on base. Eating in the food court, no problem.

....yes, that line of hundreds of foreign national employees at the base Officer's Club Sunday seafood brunch, no problem.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-17 03:07||   2013-08-17 03:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Some (note well, some) of that's SOFA - status of force agreement, which is literally a treaty between the host nation and the US. Normally, it would be totally exclusive to only members and their family members serving in country by such agreement, but some (note again, some) local commanders 'interpret' the constraints and extend a few amenities to others.

Host nations normally view 'consumption' (gas, smokes, etc) entities as heavily tax revenue sources which they waive in the case of those 'on orders' to be there, but refuse to extend to anyone else. They are not really keen in waiverning any of it to begin with. Try getting the clerk at your next hotel stay here in the States, to waiver the local room tax.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-08-17 08:25||   2013-08-17 08:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Try getting the clerk at your next hotel stay here in the States, to waiver the local room tax. Posted by Procopius2k

Point taken sir, but the clerk and owner here in the States might be a bit more favorably disposed to providing a discount, had I spent 60+ years encamped in wet, freezing snow behind their establishment, keeping them safe from the communist hoards.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-17 08:37||   2013-08-17 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 As a retiree, Holiday Inn Express gives me a nice military discount. They've even extended it to family members when I put the charges on my card. Try that in a gasthaus or B&B anywhere in Europe.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-17 08:43||   2013-08-17 08:43|| Front Page Top

#5 It's one of those small things that makes this still America. Most (excluding the usual suspects, particularly urban and coastal) have had sons, nephews, cousins, fathers, (and the other natural gender) etc who have served and grasp the significance of the 'willingness to give the last full measure of devotion'. It's the real 'demo' in democracy. It's amazing the contrast with the rest of the world where the old school view of the military and its link to social class/caste status still predominate.
Posted by Procopius2k  2013-08-17 09:35||   2013-08-17 09:35|| Front Page Top

#6 Spot on sir.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-17 09:37||   2013-08-17 09:37|| Front Page Top

#7 LOL Fred pulls an Onion out of his pocket.
I been around and ain't biting on this obvious satire.


Posted by Shipman 2013-08-17 11:02||   2013-08-17 11:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorry, Ship. I'm pretty sure the joke is on the taxpayers.
Posted by Bobby 2013-08-17 11:23||   2013-08-17 11:23|| Front Page Top

#9 nice then, he can afford to pay for his gubbamint housing and food
Posted by Frank G 2013-08-17 14:52||   2013-08-17 14:52|| Front Page Top

#10 Fidelity to the apparat pays in spades.
Posted by mossomo 2013-08-17 20:14||   2013-08-17 20:14|| Front Page Top

#11 I think I'm getting a "mood disorder" reading about this kind of, er, "stuff"....
Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-08-17 22:22||   2013-08-17 22:22|| Front Page Top

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