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2013-04-14 Home Front: Culture Wars

Dem Sen. Dianne Feinstein: Violent Video Games Act As Death Simulators...

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Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-04-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Wat is this old hag compensating for ?

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-14 04:21|| 2013-04-14 04:21|| Front Page Top

#2 I played a Video game once. Then I went and washed my hands. I didn't want to go blind.

Posted by Threater Flusoper9823 2013-04-14 05:19|| 2013-04-14 05:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Either she doesn't understand the difference between "stimulation" and "simulation", or I don't know that to think.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-04-14 07:15|| 2013-04-14 07:15|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm starting to feel sorry for her. She must be batty.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2013-04-14 07:52|| 2013-04-14 07:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Violent videogames are marked for mature audiences. Might have to go after parents if you really have a connection (which they dont).

Videogames made more money than hollywood. They compete with Hollywood. They don't donate to Democrats. They are ecpendable. Simple, cynical, math.

Posted by Rjschwarz 2013-04-14 08:23|| 2013-04-14 08:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Squirrel!*

* for our foreign visitors here is the origin of Squirrel! - i.e. a distraction.

Might have to go after parents if you really have a connection (which they dont).

No more than after parents of kids doing the shooting in Chicago, or elsewhere. They accept the Sergeant Schultz defense, cause you know, they're voters.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-04-14 09:11|| 2013-04-14 09:11|| Front Page Top

#7 I consider liberalism as a severe mental disorder that promotes human sacrifice, hedonism, irresponsibility since they're not to blame for anything, sacrifice of the innocent as they don't want to punish actual criminals and accept that actions have consequences.

There seems to be no real cure, leaving only more unpleasent options for dealing with them. Isolation is a possiblity, ie dumping them all in Hawaii and maintaining a permanent blockade of the place.

Posted by Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division 2013-04-14 10:24|| 2013-04-14 10:24|| Front Page Top

#8 I don't want to say this but I agree.

She's only mouthing what every child psychologist this side of Vienna has been saying for years.

The common thread in all of these recent mass shootings have been loners with emotional problems and mental illness (there is a difference) spending lots of time playing (addicted to) violent video games.

There is an enormous body of knowledge about how repeated viewing of violence desensitizes people to violence.

I think we should ban video games before we ban anything else. We are developing a generation of kids with no social skills, no sense of teamwork and obese. I shudder to think of what it will be like to have to supervise some of these emotionally and socially maladjusted.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-04-14 11:46|| 2013-04-14 11:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Perhaps Babs has an underdeveloped amygdala?

Posted by gorb 2013-04-14 12:06|| 2013-04-14 12:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Banning the games does nothing. What we need are people to accept the fact that if they want to raise kids that aren't monsters, they need to actually PARENT. If the kid has serious mental problems, then do the right thing and have them put into a mental health facility so that they aren't putting society and the rest of their family at risk.

Personal responsibility is at the heart of this and the more people shift this off to others, the worse these sorts of things will be.

Posted by Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division 2013-04-14 12:19|| 2013-04-14 12:19|| Front Page Top

#11 And well before you commit them, you delete their violent video games.

Posted by KBK 2013-04-14 15:21|| 2013-04-14 15:21|| Front Page Top

#12 Read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman for a good explanation of how violent video games are a form of operant conditioning.

Posted by TzSenator 2013-04-14 15:37|| 2013-04-14 15:37|| Front Page Top

#13 There is a huge difference between conditioning by the military to obey orders which results in the death of the enemy and walking away from a video game wanting to do those things in real life.

In the latter case you conditioned yourself to no good end other than that of a narcissist, and in the former you were conditioned.

If you are deeply disturbed by the images of violence and you want to reenact what you are seeing and you are over 13 years old, then you are disturbed and banning violent video games will do nothing to stop you from committing acts of stupidity.

Posted by badanov 2013-04-14 15:55|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2013-04-14 15:55|| Front Page Top

#14 Read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman for a good explanation of how violent video games are a form of operant conditioning.

Posted by TzSenator 2013-04-14 16:51|| 2013-04-14 16:51|| Front Page Top

#15 No simulation here:

A 17 year old animal named DeMarquis Elkins shot and killed an innocent 13 month old baby in a stroller and injured the mother in Brunswick, GA around the end of March 2013, just because the mother wouldn't give him money! He shot the baby just to show her he meant business.

DeMarquis Elkins is not a member of the NRA

He did not use an assault rifle

He did not get his stolen pistol from a gun show

His favorite music is rap

He did not attend Christian school, nor was he home schooled

He did attend multicultural public education, and was not instructed in the Ten Commandments

His Momma was on welfare, got food stamps, and lived in public housing

His daddy was not around, and his two brothers have a different daddy

He already has a record for violent crimes

He is gang member

His mom, grandma, and Aunty all voted for Obama.

He never earned his hunter safety card, nor did he shoot CMP, Junior NRA, or 4H Air Rifle Competitions

He was never instructed in gun safety from his father or grandfather

His public education and family taught him that the white man owes him something. He went to collect it

He has no plans on getting married, but does have a Baby Momma, and no, he is not supporting her baby

He smokes weed

He does respect Kayne West

While he has no job, nor was he looking for one, he is well fed, and does not need a job. He has no skills outside of crime

He speaks Ebonics, and is not capable of doing a professional interview, even though he spent 11 years in public education.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-14 17:32|| 2013-04-14 17:32|| Front Page Top

#16 and his Moms and Auntie lied for an alibi

nice family.

Posted by Frank G 2013-04-14 18:03|| 2013-04-14 18:03|| Front Page Top

#17 Point: They didn't have violent Video Games in the sixth Century - so how do you Explain Mohammed? (Yes THAT Mo!).

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-04-14 18:05|| 2013-04-14 18:05|| Front Page Top

#18 Re: person described in #15. There was no nurturing from a very young age, just like the jihadi-bots from the madarassas. They have no sense of empathy. Basically they are broken people and cannot be fixed. Tragic but true.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-04-14 18:51|| 2013-04-14 18:51|| Front Page Top

#19 Read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman

I'm sure the Romans, Mongols, et al were well conditioned by their 'video games' to remove any remorse or restraint from killing. How about the Crusaders at Jerusalem, the Imperial forces at Magdeburg, the Aztecs to their neighbors, etc, etc, etc. The uncomfortable truth is that mankind has shown a propensity to butchering his fellow traveler for millenniums. In fact for most of the recorded history the butchering had been literal and done up front and personal with swords, spears and variations thereof. The squeamish usually weren't around to tell their story afterward. It's not that difficult to comprehend when death was considered 'natural' in a primitive environment were supplication to gods were just as effective any anything that passed for sanitation, medical care, reliable food supplies, or numerous other aspects of modern civilization we take for granted. Life was indeed cheap. It is us in the fraction of recorded history who adjudge that what passed for thousands of years to be abnormal rather than our the environment we inhabit.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-04-14 19:05|| 2013-04-14 19:05|| Front Page Top

#20 How do you know if its violent, you'll know it when you see it?

Fact is there are Jack the Rippers who walk among us.

What Rjschwarz and Silentbrick said. Its a deflection of the issue; the more widespread dissimination of the culture of entertainment would be television, then music, then movies. I can count on one hand macrocultural video game moments, I run out of toes for simply Stalllone violent movies nevermind individual moments. Heck, he had a movie which was so bad it basically starred his cobra imprint pearl handled pistols. But that was my parents' fault for taking me to that movie.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-04-14 21:17|| 2013-04-14 21:17|| Front Page Top

#21

I think we should ban video games before we ban anything else.

You want to see violence? Try that path to tyranny.

We are developing a generation of kids with no social skills, no sense of teamwork and obese.

Says a person using the name of a fat narcissist rapist.

There is an enormous body of knowledge about how repeated viewing of violence desensitizes people to violence.

And an as-large or larger body of research showing that effect is miniscule and transitory.

Read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman

I hear that thing endlessly cited, but only by the anti-videogame crowd. Outside those circles, it's apparently a joke. The claims are poorly supported and the numbers are old and apparently in question. He's like Ehrlich -- the only people who believe him desperately WANT to.

Here's a clue: the physical acts of shooting a gun in real life and shooting a gun in a video game are completely different, and the only people who are going to think of the pixels on a monitor as interchangable with people in real life are already mentally deficient. That simple fact makes me wonder about the mental condition of the people who keep citing Grossman.

I can count on one hand macrocultural video game moments...

How old are you?

At 42, I'm right on the edge of the video game generations -- partly from being an "early adopter". Video games make more money than Hollywood movies; if you're not aware of their impact, it's more likely that you're simply not culturally aware of it. It's like not being a fan of NASCAR -- you may be aware there's a race some weekend, but can't name who's in it or the sponsor.

If video games made monsters, we'd be hip-deep in them. Instead, they seem to be around at just about the same frequency as ever.

The problem isn't video games, or anti-anxiety medications, or anti-psychotics. The problem is some people are just plain broke.

By searching for the Magic Cure, you folks are falling into the same trap the left always does -- the belief that humanity is perfectable. It's not; nothing is. Rather than trying to come up with the magic combination of tyrannies that perfects humanity, we need to accept that it'll never happen and deal with what that tells us about reality.

That means we need to accept that on occasion, it will be necessary for good people to commit violence in order to protect others or themselves.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-04-14 21:48|| 2013-04-14 21:48|| Front Page Top

#22 Rob, that was brilliant, though you were a bit hard on Bill Clinton.

Posted by trailing wife 2013-04-14 22:10|| 2013-04-14 22:10|| Front Page Top

#23 Well said, Rob. The only thing I would add is if you buy into the idea that exposure to violent games cause violence, you are going to have a hard time arguing that exposure to violent movies does NOT cause violence.

The astute will note that Hollywood (purveyor of violent movies) is a major contributor to the Democratic party and draw their own conclusions.

Posted by SteveS 2013-04-14 22:49|| 2013-04-14 22:49|| Front Page Top

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