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2012-06-22 The Grand Turk

Turkish military F-4 plane 'vanishes' near Syria border

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Posted by Glenmore 2012-06-22 11:39|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Syria shot it down, Turkey picked up the pilots, Syria apologized saying it was a grave error.

Posted by newc 2012-06-22 12:11|| 2012-06-22 12:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Why so quick to strike? Worried about something? Maybe the rebels have jets now?

Posted by gorb 2012-06-22 12:37|| 2012-06-22 12:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Probably quick to fire thinking it was US. The fact that they actually may have shot it down should have told them it wasn't American (or Israeli)...

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2012-06-22 12:54|| 2012-06-22 12:54|| Front Page Top

#4 The fact that they could see it tells them it wasn't Israeli...

Posted by Steve White 2012-06-22 12:56|| 2012-06-22 12:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Turkey is still playing with 30+ year old F-4's and inshallah maintenance? Fun stuff.

Posted by Muggsy Glink 2012-06-22 15:26|| 2012-06-22 15:26|| Front Page Top

#6 The fact that they could see it tells them it wasn't Israeli...

+1 point for Steve White

Posted by DarthVader 2012-06-22 17:43|| 2012-06-22 17:43|| Front Page Top

#7 FOX NEWS this AM says the Turks are threatening
"reprisal" despite apology from Syruh.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-06-22 19:48|| 2012-06-22 19:48|| Front Page Top

#8 KFI commute radio just a half hour ago said the pilots were NOT recovered. Interesting....

Posted by Frank G 2012-06-22 20:31|| 2012-06-22 20:31|| Front Page Top

#9 VARIOUS = ...

> Syria claims the Turkish plane was shot down inside Syrian territorial waters.
> DEFENCENET [Greece] = Turkish AF F-4E 2020 or RF-4 shot down by S-300 ADS, POSSIBLY RUSSIAN MANNED/CONTROLLED?, wid permission of the Syrian Govt. Turkish AF was allowed by Syria to conduct SAR for its then-missing Pilots.
> Despite Net Artics to the contrary, there are conflicting claims by both SYRIAN MEDIA + TURKEY that Syria has NOT apologized to Turkey for the incident???
> SPECULATION/SCUTTLEBUTT THAT THE TURKISH PLANE MAY HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SHOT DOWN BY A NAVAL VESSEL [Russian?], NOT SYRIAN SHORE-BASED AD ARTY, which could explain Erdogan's seemingly tight-lipped or panicky? behavior???

D *** NG, + NO POPCORN ANYWHERE AROUND TO BOOT.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-06-22 20:33|| 2012-06-22 20:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Joe that's some interesting stuff.
I wonder if this is in any way related to the fighter bomber that defected to Turkey the other day. (tit for tat?)

Posted by Water Modem 2012-06-22 21:49|| 2012-06-22 21:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Y'know, maybe Erdogan shouldn't have spent the last decade or so slowly dismantling his military leadership and pissing off Turkey's two primary allies.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-06-22 21:51|| 2012-06-22 21:51|| Front Page Top

#12 DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > RUSSIANS ARMING SYRIA WID MISSLES [+ Specialists-Advisors to train,install same] TO HELP DEFEND AGZ NATO [+ US, EU?] ATTACK.

and

* SAME > [News Tribe] TAYYIP ERDOGAN [Turkish PM]REFUSES TO BLAME SYRIA FOR DOWNED FIGHTER.

Net going ballistic oer possible Russian involvement in shootdown, regional war scenarios in consequence.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-06-22 22:18|| 2012-06-22 22:18|| Front Page Top

#13 As posted on the other story, Turkey says Syria apologized. Alls well that ends.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-06-22 23:19|| 2012-06-22 23:19|| Front Page Top

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