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2012-03-19 Home Front: Politix

ATK Secures 450 Million Rounds of .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract

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Posted by Sherry 2012-03-19 14:02|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 what fires a .40 bullet?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-03-19 14:15|| 2012-03-19 14:15|| Front Page Top

#2 It would be interesting to compare this number with the number of rounds of M-16 ammo burned in the Iraq endeavor from 2003 to 2010.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-03-19 14:19|| 2012-03-19 14:19|| Front Page Top

#3 What does the DHS and ICE need that many bullets for? That's more than one for each citizen.

Posted by Water Modem 2012-03-19 14:22|| 2012-03-19 14:22|| Front Page Top

#4 SIG-Sauer P229R

Heckler & Koch UMP

Both are Immigration and Customs Enforcement weapons

Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 14:25|| 2012-03-19 14:25|| Front Page Top

#5 What does the DHS and ICE need that many bullets for?

One year contract with four year option - pretty much standard federal contract.

Maximum volume of 450 million rounds. Likely will never reach that amount.

ICE has somewhere between 15000 and 20000 personnel. Estimate between 50-65 percent of that in an enforcement capacity. Figure qualification firing, familiarization firing, etc.

Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 14:33|| 2012-03-19 14:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Thanks,Pappy --

Posted by Sherry 2012-03-19 15:22|| 2012-03-19 15:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Does that include what gets exported to Mexican Drug Cartels?

Oh sorry. that would be the Department of Justice...

Posted by CrazyFool 2012-03-19 15:38|| 2012-03-19 15:38|| Front Page Top

#8 So 450 million rounds over 5 years

90 million rounds a year

20,000 employees of ICE, 52 weeks a year...

About 86 rounds per employee per week.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-03-19 17:08|| 2012-03-19 17:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Surprised nobody said the Glock 23. It is a .40, for standard sidearm at the FBI and still a favorite of a lot of agencies and people (self included).

Posted by OldSpook 2012-03-19 20:58|| 2012-03-19 20:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a ~~pearl-handled pistol~~ plastic pistol.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-19 21:03|| 2012-03-19 21:03|| Front Page Top

#11 About 86 rounds per employee per week.

SIG-Sauer P229R (S&W .40 cal): 10 to 12-round magazine.

Heckler & Koch UMP (S&W .40 cal): 30-round magazine.

Not sure what an agent load-out is, but figure at least two magazines per weapon carried. Again, factor in qualification firing, familiarization firing, etc.

Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 21:48|| 2012-03-19 21:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Two words: Zombie Apocalypse

Posted by SteveS 2012-03-19 22:31|| 2012-03-19 22:31|| Front Page Top

#13 Realize that it's difficult to accept, but "They" know exactly what they're plotting.

Trust me.

Posted by Shamp Clong8416 2012-03-19 22:40|| 2012-03-19 22:40|| Front Page Top

#14 ATK is also a major subcontractor to Lockheed-Martin for the F-35 skins. They wind the majority of all the fuselage and nacelle skins in Utah as well as all 6 wing versions.
maybe some of this is to keep the books balanced when the JSF goes TU......
(wind, as in they have a contoured mandrel where a carbon fiber placement machine wraps carbon threads much like a spider does to its victim. after curing it gets trimmed into final shape. )

Posted by USN, Ret. 2012-03-19 22:46|| 2012-03-19 22:46|| Front Page Top

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