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2011-04-29 Economy
Pelosi "Pounces" on Exxon
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Posted by Grinesh Omairt2166 2011-04-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 I thought that total taxes on each gallon of gas was on the order of 20%, which would make it about 80 cents/gallon.
Posted by gorb 2011-04-29 05:08||   2011-04-29 05:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Isn't "pounce" a brand of cat food?
Posted by no mo uro 2011-04-29 06:48||   2011-04-29 06:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Just remember, before it gets to the bottom line, the Feds take half.
Posted by Bobby 2011-04-29 06:59||   2011-04-29 06:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I openly admit I'm a complete dolt when it comes to macro economics. But something isn't making sense here. The immediate problem is I'm getting squeezed at the pump. But (As I understand it.) the fundemental problem is that high energy prices stunt economic growth. The rationale behind subsidies to the industries that produce commodities is to balance their production costs. And, in turn, those reduced costs make their product more affordable to the consumer and ultimately spur economic growth. So how does squeezing the tit of Big Oil make it less painful when I fill up my gas tank? I dunno, I'm beginning to think Obama and Pelosi are just playing games. But hey...if it works I say go after Big Sugar and Big Corn next. Have you seen the price liquor lately?
Posted by DepotGuy 2011-04-29 11:17||   2011-04-29 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 The oil companies don't set the price of oil.

But you have a government that is driving prices up by stopping operations in the Gulf of Mexico and shutting off oil from Libya causing prices to rise and then they complain that because a barrel of crude goes up in price the oil companies make more money?

Look, the oil company DOESN'T SET THE PRICE. I wish these libtards would get that through their heads. The buyers set the price. The price is what amounts to an auction. There is nothing Exxon can do about the price of oil short of bringing more to market ... which this government actively blocks.

It is JUST. PLAIN. STUPID.
Posted by crosspatch 2011-04-29 12:16||   2011-04-29 12:16|| Front Page Top

#6 the U.S. ought to be investing in clean energy

I assume she's referring to carbon-neutral Botox production.
Posted by Matt 2011-04-29 12:46||   2011-04-29 12:46|| Front Page Top

#7 The federal leviathan really does need a PURGE.
Posted by newc 2011-04-29 13:09||   2011-04-29 13:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Wait a minute. First we subsidize them and then we tax them? Do I understand that correctly? Somebody help me here. How does that make sense?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-04-29 13:33||   2011-04-29 13:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Wait a minute. First we subsidize them and then we tax them? Do I understand that correctly? Somebody help me here. How does that make sense?

Have you ever claimed depreciation on anything? If so, congratulations, the rest of us subsidized your lazy selfish ass.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-04-29 14:45||   2011-04-29 14:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Depreciation? Not really. Not me.

I just don't understand because it sounds like the government is giving them money with one hand and then taking it away with another hand. Wouldn't it make more sense to subsidize less but then tax less as well? Wouldn't it save a lot of accountants a lot of time?

But then, it's all a scam anyway, isn't it?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-04-29 15:57||   2011-04-29 15:57|| Front Page Top

#11 >But then, it's all a scam anyway, isn't it?

YES.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-04-29 16:17||   2011-04-29 16:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Yes, but more passes thru the Federal till this way.
Posted by Bobby 2011-04-29 16:27||   2011-04-29 16:27|| Front Page Top

#13 The Feds don't subsidize oil. What they do is provide a few incentives to companies to drill. One of them is the Oil Depletion Allowance, which allows oil companies to deduct from profits, because extracting oil means there's less of it in the ground (the "depletion"). Since it costs money to do the surveys to find the oil, to drill to extract it, and then a constant cost to maintain the well AND the reservoir, the companies can deduct the costs from profits, based on a sliding scale. The mineral depletion allowance in one form or another exists in all mineral extraction industries. The environmental protection racket agency also requires that all mineral extraction companies set aside a certain amount for "restoration" once a mine closes or an oil well is shut down. This is also deducted from profits before taxes. I can't ever remember reading anything about the oil and gas industry that included any kind of direct subsidy for the industry. Taking away the two allowances listed above would make drilling much more expensive, and surveying prohibitive, yet that seems to be exactly what Peloosey wants.
Posted by Old Patriot 2011-04-29 18:35||   2011-04-29 18:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, fortunately we have the media to explain these things to us.

Thanks for doing their job, OP!
Posted by Bobby 2011-04-29 19:14||   2011-04-29 19:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Y'all are forgetting state and city taxes as well as Federal
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-04-29 19:17||   2011-04-29 19:17|| Front Page Top

#16 Well when you consider that to the ex-Queen Nancy and her gang *all* the profits properly belongs to the government and they are just being generous in even providing the incentive and allowing (hence the 'subsidies') the oil companies to keep even that much of their profits.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-04-29 19:54||   2011-04-29 19:54|| Front Page Top

#17 "JUST. PLAIN. STUPID."

It is Pelousy, cp.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-29 20:44||   2011-04-29 20:44|| Front Page Top

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