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2011-01-09 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Giffords was Jewish. One of shooter's favorite books was Mein Kampf.

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Posted by gorb 2011-01-09 11:56|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Perhaps not "mentor" and more like "controller." The internet makes it ever easier to find the disturbed and easily manipulated.

Posted by Pstanley 2011-01-09 12:13|| 2011-01-09 12:13|| Front Page Top

#2 He just said they were his favorite books. It doesn't mean he read them. I think he meant that he had heard of them.

Posted by Goober Goobelopolous 2011-01-09 13:01|| 2011-01-09 13:01|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm pretty sure he read them.

Maybe what you mean is he didn't understand them. Or what they meant.

Posted by gorb 2011-01-09 13:42|| 2011-01-09 13:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Marx's Communist Manifesto was also listed amongst the shooter's favorite books. The guy is a maniac, unbalanced and self-contradictory.

Posted by OldSpook 2011-01-09 13:48|| 2011-01-09 13:48|| Front Page Top

#5 The thing I've seen (so far) that sticks out is that he is part of American Renaissance, which has less government as one of its ideals. Other than that, everything he has been up to has been part of socialist/communist ideology, including the anti-semitism crap.

Posted by gorb 2011-01-09 14:04|| 2011-01-09 14:04|| Front Page Top

#6 I can pretty much guess how Jared Loughner got tied to American Renaissance. Local law enforcement had contact with the guy in 2007, probably saw their page loaded on his computer/laptop. Bingo! Tied!

Loughner wouldn't have been allowed within ten miles of any legitimate group left or fright because pot fried his brain, and no one wants to be associated with that.

As far as I am concerned Fox News has some s'plainin' to do, as does sites such as Politico.

The AmRen story is the sorriest example of modern reportage I have ever seen and I have seen some crappy reportage. The reporting I have seen on this story runs neck and neck with the crappiest journalism done by Mexico Proceso.

Tea Party ads, my ass! If the reporterette at Politico had bothered to read the ads and do a whois lookup she would have seen those ads were for modified Gadsden flags, not the tea party.

You can blow your way through J-school ,honey, and blow your way into a job, but you can't blow your way out of fu*cking up a story.

Just goddam sorry journalism!

Posted by badanov 2011-01-09 14:22|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2011-01-09 14:22|| Front Page Top

#7 the apprentice (the gunman) doesn't seem to have made any anti Semitic comments that we know about

however, the master, that may be different

Posted by lord garth 2011-01-09 14:25|| 2011-01-09 14:25|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm pretty sure he read them.

Well I'm pretty sure he didn't read them but did understand them perfectly. However, if you're sure he did read them, that's good enough for me. Thank you and good evening.

Posted by Goober Goobelopolous 2011-01-09 14:32|| 2011-01-09 14:32|| Front Page Top

#9 This guy deserves a few elbows in the gut and more, I hope he gets them.

Posted by Uleatch Dribble8106 2011-01-09 14:50|| 2011-01-09 14:50|| Front Page Top

#10 It looks like the type of list a person would put up to appear knowledgable; a poseur. Seems to me what those books have in common is that every one of them is recognizable by anyone who has had a semester of literature. But if a person did want to read into it, it is government big individual small others think deeper for you; was it Plato who has been called the first socialist?

Totally agree badanov, just awful.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-01-09 15:40|| 2011-01-09 15:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Update:

Reports are that the person-of-interest was not the gunman's master but a taxi driver who took the gunman to the event. He (the taxi driver) hung around for a little bit because he had not been paid and was hoping to bump into his customer and get the fare.

Posted by Lord Garth 2011-01-09 16:36|| 2011-01-09 16:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Nothing contradictory between Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto. They are both works of the Left. Nazi is an ackronyn for National *Socialism*. The connection is well documented.

In other news, it matters not one iota whether he read them or not. Identifying oneself with these works sends an immediate and nearly universally recognized message.

Posted by Iblis 2011-01-09 17:14|| 2011-01-09 17:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Good point, swksvolFF. A list made, perhaps, in the hope of lending some weight to his bizarro rantings? A list that screams "listen to me! I'm smart!" Since it isn't looking like he had any experience or accomplishments to point to.

Thanks for the update, LG. This seems like the act of a psychotic loner more than anything else, so an accomplice struck me as unlikely.

Posted by RandomJD 2011-01-09 17:24|| 2011-01-09 17:24|| Front Page Top

#14 Here's a link to the Communist Manifesto, including prefaces for a bunch of different versions, which constitute the last third of the article. If you haven't read it before you may want to now. Or print yourself off a copy and read it in the bathroom, which would be more appropriate. It's amazing that such a small work could account for so much misery.

Posted by gorb 2011-01-09 18:34|| 2011-01-09 18:34|| Front Page Top

#15

Nothing contradictory between Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto. They are both works of the Left. Nazi is an ackronyn for National *Socialism*. The connection is well documented.

Also, Marx was as much an antisemite as Hitler; one of his later screeds was about the "Jewish question".

Hitler only appears to be "right wing" to devotees of Stalin.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-01-09 19:58|| 2011-01-09 19:58|| Front Page Top

#16 What I find instructive is a memo released by DHS. It says in part:
An internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) memo quoted by FOX News Channel revealed the gunman - named by the media as Jared Loughner, 22 - is "possibly linked" to American Renaissance.

The group subscribes to an ideology that is "anti-government, anti-immigration, anti -ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic," according to the DHS memo.
So is he linked to American Renaissance?
This should be easy to discover. He is either on their data base or has multiple back copies of the magazine, which the FBI will no doubt have found when they search his parents home.
If not I'm sure DHS will provide their reason for making the statement, even if it means holding Napolitano's feet to a burning flame to extract the information.
As for the rest of the diatribe of the memo, it's obviously a direct regurgitation of a polemic from the corrupt Southern Poverty Law Centre, which is one of Obama's attack dogs.

Posted by tipper 2011-01-09 20:40|| 2011-01-09 20:40|| Front Page Top

#17 A better link to the SPLC.

Posted by tipper 2011-01-09 20:59|| 2011-01-09 20:59|| Front Page Top

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