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2010-07-28 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Population in the Arab World declines: UN

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Posted by Fred 2010-07-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Makes me wonder just how many were Taliban(Or their Ilk) How many THEY killed and added to the Bad Asses we killed affects the total?

Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-07-28 00:19|| 2010-07-28 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 But, but, but I have my final semester, my BMW, and all my friends at UCLA and I don't WANT to be cousin Bugwat Ali's third wife through an arranged marraige!!!

The rejection of polgamy and the strict tenets of Islam by Arab women was of course not mentioned by ESCWA, but it is a huge factor.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-07-28 00:53|| 2010-07-28 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 TW - all of the top 10 and most of the top 30 are African. Poverty = high birth rate. If you haven't seen this presentation, check it out. It puts the lie to "the poor are getting poorer".

Posted by Spot 2010-07-28 08:13|| 2010-07-28 08:13|| Front Page Top

#4 The rejection of polgamy and the strict tenets of Islam by Arab women was of course not mentioned by ESCWA, but it is a huge factor.

In other words sanity comes to some segments of the islamic population? I'd like to believe this but I'm suspicious by nature. Shuck the whole load of brainwashing aside and I might begin to believe in miraculous conversions.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-07-28 09:01|| 2010-07-28 09:01|| Front Page Top

#5 If you haven't seen this presentation, check it out. It puts the lie to "the poor are getting poorer".

Indeed a fabulous presentation, Spot. The whole poverty question is a fascinating one.

But what intrigues me about this particular UN report is that the caliphatists are forever trumpeting that the inevitability of the conquest of Islam is due as much to outbreeding the rest of the world as it is to conversion by unbelievers. And yet, given the rapidly dropping birth rates, it may turn out to be the Christian Africans who end up having the most babies during this critical period.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-07-28 10:46|| 2010-07-28 10:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Demographic studies have long shown the phenomenon that when a given nation reaches an economic prosperity plateau relative to just that country, suddenly the birthrate drops like a rock to just replacement, not strong growth.

Until this, the most recent example was Mexico, where very abruptly the birthrate dropped from 6 or so to 2.3. Oddly enough, the only Mexicans still having lots of kids were those who had migrated to the US. Go figure.

Importantly, government and culture seems to be almost incapable of raising declined birthrate, but most definitely can lower it even further. That is, programs to improve the *quality* of childen's lives reduce the *quantity* of children.

Likewise, oppressive cultural and religious controls tend to increase the birthrate, out of sheer boredom if nothing else, but when liberalization happens, the birthrate likewise drops. Better quality of life equals less kids.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-07-28 11:01|| 2010-07-28 11:01|| Front Page Top

#7 I didn't see a decline in this report.
I saw a decline in rate of increase.

Posted by 3dc 2010-07-28 17:24|| 2010-07-28 17:24|| Front Page Top

#8 "Poverty = high birth rate."

♪ The rich get rich and the poor have chil-dren ♫

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-07-28 19:19|| 2010-07-28 19:19|| Front Page Top

#9 I think if the arab men would find more romance at home instead of the nearest flock of sheep, the birth rate would be higher.

That and the fact they are blowing themselves and their neighbors up in such alarming numbers. AND don't forget these kaboomers are mostly young males so they are depleting their breeding stock by turning their 17-25 year old men into strawberry jam.

Posted by James Carville/Karl Rove 2010-07-28 19:59|| 2010-07-28 19:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I didn't see a decline in this report.
I saw a decline in rate of increase.

Apples and oranges, 3dc. The report is talking about Arab birth rates, which they are calling fertility rate. The birth rate has fallen by almost two thirds since 1980. However, given increased life spans in the region -- despite internecine warfare and taqfiri murders -- the total population continues to grow, albeit more slowly than before.

AND don't forget these kaboomers are mostly young males so they are depleting their breeding stock by turning their 17-25 year old men into strawberry jam.

A history of polygamy (polygyny, for those of us who are pedants) means there is expected to be an excess of young men. One older man can service any number of fertile ~~women~~ wives, so that the excess of youths remove themselves from competition effects the birth rate not one iota, James-Karl. Hopefully, as more women insist on monogamous marriages, there should be fewer young men whose see the only path to mating as through the suicide vest.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-07-28 20:24|| 2010-07-28 20:24|| Front Page Top

#11 As a side note of marriage, if said male had money, he could buy a wife from any poor family. He can buy any number he wants, from my understanding. When they are old or of no use to him, he can then send them back to the family he bought them from, in what ever condition he left them in.

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-07-28 20:54|| 2010-07-28 20:54|| Front Page Top

#12 That doesn't sound like buying. It sounds like renting.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-07-28 23:36|| 2010-07-28 23:36|| Front Page Top

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