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2010-04-30 Home Front: Politix

Obama takes immigration reform off agenda

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Posted by Steve White 2010-04-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 Kinda makes me wonder if they put it up just to get shot down and look gracious for giving up.

And it also kind makes me wonder what nearly equally devious legislation they are going to work on next.

Posted by gorb 2010-04-30 00:38|| 2010-04-30 00:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Gorb, Portorico statehood (2 senate and 6 house seats gains) and Cap & Steal (a.k.a. carbon indulgences scam). They can leave the "immigration reform" for run up to 2012.

Posted by twobyfour 2010-04-30 02:01|| 2010-04-30 02:01|| Front Page Top

#3 They can leave the "immigration reform" for run up to 2012. Posted by twobyfour

You've got it!

Posted by Besoeker 2010-04-30 07:56|| 2010-04-30 07:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Won't happen in the run-up to any election. The memories are to fresh of who voted for the old amnesty crap. " Sire, remember the Athenians".

Posted by notascrename 2010-04-30 10:31|| 2010-04-30 10:31|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't see that they'll ever push it seriously, not even in 2012. They want to, desperately, but they know it's a huge loser for them. The pushback has been immense, even more lopsided than the political-media elite could have guessed.

Posted by lex 2010-04-30 10:31|| 2010-04-30 10:31|| Front Page Top

#6 It's like reforming social security: the only real solution is one that involves huge pain. Can't live with 'em, can't deport 'em... I'd guess there will be some sort of neither/nor compromise in which the border gets enforced and the illegals remain but without citizenship or access to benefits, as guestworkers without a return date. We'll probably have to allow their illiterate kids to keep f***ing up our schools, but c'est la vie.

Posted by lex 2010-04-30 10:35|| 2010-04-30 10:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Just temporary until the heat dies down regarding the undocumented democratic voters.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-04-30 10:58|| 2010-04-30 10:58|| Front Page Top

#8 One poll showed 70% support for Arizona's new law. I suspect Obama's internal polling says something similar and they would like to have one or two seats left by 2012. That's probably why the Puerto Rico plan, sort of a backup.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-04-30 11:19|| 2010-04-30 11:19|| Front Page Top

#9 "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
Rahm Emanuel

Posted by WolfDog 2010-04-30 11:26|| 2010-04-30 11:26|| Front Page Top

#10 If there's 70% support in Arizona for the new law, then that can only mean that a significant number of AZ latinos, who constitute 30% of AZ's population, support the law. Consider that nearly all white liberals oppose the law, and that white liberals are probably no more than 18% of the total AZ population. So the numbers imply the following breakout:

Opposition to law = 30% of total population
- 15% = white liberals
- 13% = latinos
- 2% = other ethnicity (native American, asian, afr-amer)

Consider: if Latinos = 30% of total population, and if 13% of the population are latinos opposed to the law, then 17% of the population is latinos in favor of the law, IOW, a majority of latinos FAVORS THIS LAW.

Alternatively, only a very slim majority of latinos and liberals opposes the law. But no matter how you slice the numbers, if only 30% of the overall population opposes the law, there is no mathematical possibility that a majority of AZ liberals and a majority of AZ latinos can be opposed to this law.

Bottom line, even Barry's base is in favor of, or at most evenly split concerning, the AZ law. This is why Rahm & Co. have advised that Barry drop the matter altogether.

Posted by lex 2010-04-30 12:48|| 2010-04-30 12:48|| Front Page Top

#11 This overwhlemingly popular law is the bitchslap that Tweedledum and Tweedledee so desperately needed. Amnesty, falsely known as "reform", is dead in our time.

This is not to say that 'Dum and 'Dee will not continue to f*** up border security and ignore the problem altogether, but when a majority of white liberals and latinos favors border security and opposes open borders, it's clear that the political class will back off from another shambolic amnesty effort.

Posted by lex 2010-04-30 12:52|| 2010-04-30 12:52|| Front Page Top

#12 Want them to self-deport? Deny them housing. Take away things like cars when caught driving. Done.

Posted by gorb 2010-04-30 23:20|| 2010-04-30 23:20|| Front Page Top

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