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2010-01-21 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Steve White 2010-01-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 One Year Into the Golden Age of Hope and Change

Last November:

Thank you former President George W. Bush and former First Lady Laura Bush

Check the comments on those two threads.

Posted by KBK 2010-01-21 00:40|| 2010-01-21 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 From a comment from above you can thank President Bush from the Mission 1 Accomplished website.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-01-21 00:45|| 2010-01-21 00:45|| Front Page Top

#3 But he brought it all upon himself. It's his fault and Darth Cheney too! [snark off]

Posted by Besoeker 2010-01-21 02:07|| 2010-01-21 02:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Surely it's Bush who betrayed America by.
(i) Misdirecting Counter-Jihad into "Nation Building"?
(ii) Ignoring the signs of the coming economic crisis as long as it didn't interfere with his Iraqi program?
(iii) Appointing a personal sycophant to the second highest position in US government?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-01-21 04:34|| 2010-01-21 04:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Grom, I often wondered whether you have an unique perspective or rather you are full of it. Glad that I don't have to ponder anymore.

Posted by twobyfour 2010-01-21 07:38|| 2010-01-21 07:38|| Front Page Top

#6 Had W been more articulate and if he had some fire in his belly to stand up to moonbattery and BDS, he could have accomplished so much more.

The next conservative who gets into the oval office has to be someone who takes no prisoners and exacts retribution, someone who will get on TV when a Barney Frank accuses him of racism merely for wanting to do something about an impending mortgage crisis and tell the American public that wanting to fix the problem isn't racism, it's common sense, and that evil people like Frank lie about motivations for political reasons.

He would use the bully pulpit of the presidency to blister anyone who accused him of wanting to put old folks out on ice floes as a result of his efforts to reform social security.

W could have set the tone for the Republican party with vigorous public and articulate defense of the good that conservatism is.

W did not do things like this and the result was President Obama and a conservative movement on the outside looking in. For all of his good points, this was a great failing on the part of W.

Posted by no mo uro 2010-01-21 08:13|| 2010-01-21 08:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Everyone has some limitations, maybe some big faults. Your wife for instance.

As for George W. Bush...if you wanted a man at your back in a close fight would you want Obama or George W?

I admired George W. he stood for something. He kept his word. He took all that abuse and carried the war...and where IS Mookie Sadr and Zarquawi today? Where are the two flaming prances, Kerry and Edwards saluting and standing up for honor and duty? Breck Boy and Mr. five medal for nothing.
Fine upstanding men like that, the very best the Democratic Party had to offer.

George W, wherever you are now, you did a good job. You kept the country safe....not like Hussein Obama who pansyed PC and allowed three attacks inside the US in less than a year when George kept us in the clear for six years..AND won the war.

Anybody realize how mean a fight it was in Fallujah? Those Marines stood up and CHEERED when George W came into the auditorium and stood among them. You can hear the silence when Obama comes to speak to a room full of soldiers.

The American people let a good man like George W down.
I dont think history will.

Posted by Spike Snubnose 2010-01-21 08:54|| 2010-01-21 08:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Bush's detractors should be embarrassed having arrogantly thought they could do it better, and those Republicans who abandoned Bush when he needed them most should take a moment to reflect on their fortitude or lack thereof.

The money quote for me. I had occasion to meet and talk with Cheney in the early 90s. Cheney did not seem to me to be a Machiavellian prince plotting in the background. He seemed to be a smart, straight-up guy. I think he was a pretty good VP--probably more involved than most. He seemed to also have a great deal to do with keeping the U.S. safe. However, I would not go hunting with him.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-01-21 09:18|| 2010-01-21 09:18|| Front Page Top

#9 I disagreed with his policies on amnesty and immigration, with his bailout of gamblers in the financial arena, some of selections for various offices and departments, and trade offs he made with a Democratically controlled Congress. I do, however, understand why he did those. If the republic does survive, it will be not just because of his conduct of the WOT but because of his vilification most Americans came to know that the MSM was nothing more than an extension of the Democratic Party that accepted no limitation in bearing false witness against him, and therefore cut its own throat among so many citizens.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-21 09:51|| 2010-01-21 09:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Bush had Integrity and he had honor. He didn't lie and he did what he thought was best to defend America. Contract that with Obama, Kerry, or Al Gore....

The fact that he wasn't the 'best he could be' doesn't distract from the fact that he was a good president in a hard time. Sure he 'could have - should have' been more forceful - but that doesn't distact from the things he got right.

Would you rather have our current president? Can you imagine that the hip-bowing affirmitive-action president would have done? (And still might do if it happens again?) How about John Kerry or Al Gore?

And don't forget that the media absolutely *HATED* Bush with a passion. A lot of what we know about, and just about everything which has been reported about, his presidency has been tainted by that hatred.

I for one say "Thank you Mr President".

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-01-21 09:57|| 2010-01-21 09:57|| Front Page Top

#11 He didn't lie

Yes he did (though I cannot list an example at the moment.) It is essential to doing the job. To his credit, he did not seem very good, or comfortable at it - unlike so many.

Posted by Glenmore 2010-01-21 12:43|| 2010-01-21 12:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Thank you for sharing this, simply fascinating, glimpse into your mental processes with us, 2x4.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-01-21 13:42|| 2010-01-21 13:42|| Front Page Top

#13 However, I would not go hunting with him.

Did you know that the "Duke" (John Wayne)also peppered a fellow shooter with birdshot and said,
"Damn I know it hurts, but I wish you could see the perfect pattern this gun throws".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-01-21 14:56|| 2010-01-21 14:56|| Front Page Top

#14 Spike Snubnose and Crazyfool:

Of course I think W had integrity and honor. Of course I'd rather have him watching my back than Obama. Yes, many Americans let W and other great Americans going back to the Foounding Fathers down. Yes, history (if they start allowing people with center-right politics to be history professors again some day) will look back and see that W was the first president since WWII to directly address radical Islam as an existential threat to the West.

I am grateful he was president after 9/11.

Doesn't change the fact that, like his father, his one failing - the inability to communicate forcefully, effectively, and articulately - is a fault that hamstrings a leader in an age of mass media. In a pre-TV, pre-internet age, W's deficiency in this area would have been irrelevant.

Sadly, nowadays it is crucial.

Redneck Jim

Always remember, for steel shot use one less choke........

Posted by no mo uro 2010-01-21 15:57|| 2010-01-21 15:57|| Front Page Top

#15 Texas Cops Release Cheney Shooting Report

Whittington was left behind to recover his bird. He rejoined the line unannounced and walked up next to Cheney. A bird flushed, Cheney pivoted and got off the shot, and there was Whittington. An accident, equally shared, I think.

Posted by KBK 2010-01-21 19:19|| 2010-01-21 19:19|| Front Page Top

#16 Grom, I often wondered whether you have an unique perspective or rather you are full of it

Asking g(r)om about US leadership is like inviting my sister-in-law out to dine.

No matter what restaurant or what cuisine, she runs the staff ragged, verbally abuses the rest of family, and never hesistates to find something to bitch about.

Even if you're the one picking up the tab.

Posted by Pappy 2010-01-21 21:25|| 2010-01-21 21:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Bush never blaimed Clinton for anything. He just went to work every day. Just like the rest of us.

Posted by Chereting Snetch4156 2010-01-21 22:37|| 2010-01-21 22:37|| Front Page Top

#18 Gentlemen, I would go hunting with W. Cheney was the one who shot his buddy with birdshot....not W.

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2010-01-21 23:29|| 2010-01-21 23:29|| Front Page Top

#19 Actually, I'd go hunting with Mr. Cheney as well. I'd just make a point of staying well back when it was his turn to shoot, just like I would for anyone else.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-01-21 23:41|| 2010-01-21 23:41|| Front Page Top

#20 I grew up in Arkansas, hunting with Dad and brothers. Married into a hunting Texas family, and I'd go hunting with Mr. Cheney --- It's not only part of the job of your hunting partners to know where you are -- but you got to know where they are..... some partners don't always know where they are (at least that's how I heard part of that story)

Posted by Sherry 2010-01-21 23:47|| 2010-01-21 23:47|| Front Page Top

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