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2009-12-23 Home Front: Politix

Tea Parties, Third Parties and the Republican Party

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Posted by Fred 2009-12-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 No third party ever won.
Grab the conservatives, and storm the republican headquarters. Tell them I am not impressed and then get some good people back up there.

Posted by newc 2009-12-23 01:57|| 2009-12-23 01:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Use what is in place already as defense, use what you have valued as a weapon. Use truth. Use the mechanisms that are already installed into place.

Where is the Rotary Club?

Posted by newc 2009-12-23 02:05|| 2009-12-23 02:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Where is the Rotary Club?<

They are going around in circles.

;-) < - Had to say it.

Posted by Thusons Dark Lord of the French5427 2009-12-23 06:20|| 2009-12-23 06:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Go to your room, Thusons. ;-)

Posted by lotp 2009-12-23 06:28|| 2009-12-23 06:28|| Front Page Top

#5 To your room, Thusons Dark Lord of the French5427. But only briefly. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2009-12-23 06:29|| 2009-12-23 06:29|| Front Page Top

#6 A very clear article by Mr. Del Beccaro, and excellent commentary Fred.

Fred said " There is no end to the rapacity of those who regard themselves as a ruling class -- and increasingly as an hereditary ruling class."

Bingo. This has ALWAYS been the problem in Republics, as illustrated by Livy and expounded on by Machiavelli. The ruling class (in Rome it was the nobles) oppress the people. That's what they do. Some of the people love this, for any number of reasons. The problem today would seem to boil down to how to punish the governing-class- who have become arrogant and tyrannical, WITHOUT appointing a dictator(s), who usually become tyrants in fact.

Posted by Free Radical 2009-12-23 08:05|| 2009-12-23 08:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Can't speak for other Tea Parties, but the San Antonio Tea Party is basically beating the bushes for aspiring new candidates to run in both parties, and for all levels of office. We're looking to hold candidate forums, and meetings - it's been my sense that most of the other SATP supporters agree (well, as much as we can agree on anything!)that a third party is a non-starter. Better to push for new blood, for strict constitutionalists and fiscal conservatives coming up within the established party/parties.
The anger against the entrenched politicians, who vote for their own continuance in office, rather than the good of the nation at large is gathering, rather like a tsunami out at sea. I am thinking that it will crash into Washington with the 2010 election season, and a lot of pundits and political aristocrats will be left shattered, because they had no idea of the depth of that anger...

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2009-12-23 08:56|| http://www.celiahayes.com 2009-12-23 08:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The Tea Party must reformulate its message, that government over-reaching, extravagance, and over-taxation are ultimately the same issue, and that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-12-23 09:14|| 2009-12-23 09:14|| Front Page Top

#9 The Tea Party is not a Party. It is not a single organization of any kind. Each local entity is independent. At least in ours, actions are only 'suggestions' of time, place and theme where members and non-members might choose to gather - no leaders to be arrested. And since members are largely gainfully employed, arrest or black-listing are of real concern. I don't know that the Republicrat/Demican Party would take kindly to serious threats to its turf.

Posted by Glenmore 2009-12-23 10:25|| 2009-12-23 10:25|| Front Page Top

#10 I live a very conservative district and IMHO a Tea Party candidate would win hands down.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2009-12-23 11:37|| 2009-12-23 11:37|| Front Page Top

#11 newsc, the third party has won in the past. About 150 years ago, the Republican party WAS the third party. Just ask the Whigs. I have given up on the republicans and I'm just waiting for the chance to jump at a viable alternative. It takes a crisis (like the desire to banish the evils of slavery) for a third party to rise. Unfortunately, things will have to get much worse before enough Americans wake up enough to bring the next party to power. With today's complete lack of competent leadership, however, it's only a matter of time.

Posted by AuburnTom 2009-12-23 14:46|| 2009-12-23 14:46|| Front Page Top

#12 No third party ever won.

Not exactly, but an interesting comparison and result.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-12-23 15:49|| 2009-12-23 15:49|| Front Page Top

#13 In many ways the task of re-making government today is as daunting a task as was that of creating a government some 200 plus years ago. Voter dissatisfaction may be great enough to bring about the change that is really needed.

Posted by JohnQC 2009-12-23 19:56|| 2009-12-23 19:56|| Front Page Top

#14 the time to fight is in the primary. Third party candidates give the election to the Donks. Fight fiercely and support the winner in the main election contest, otherwise you've helped elect our socialist Donks.

Posted by Frank G 2009-12-23 19:59|| 2009-12-23 19:59|| Front Page Top

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