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2009-10-12 Home Front: Politix

Caliphornia polling shows little to please Republicans in 2010

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Posted by Fred 2009-10-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 What the California Democrats have is a farm-team system. They recruit candidates to run for the most mundane offices. They support them through their campaign (or find support for them - union money helps), and then groom the more successful ones for higher office.

The Pubs either treat it like it's a family business, or they back a candidate only because they have momentum/star-power/heavy-outsider support.

Posted by Pappy 2009-10-12 00:44|| 2009-10-12 00:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Having lived there in the early 1980s, I agree with your analysis Pappy.

Most people seem to know of the "Chicago Machine" or the "New York Borough Parties" but few seem to realise that in the great migration from East to West in the 1970-90's the New York crowd took their borough system with them.

It was transplanted to California and thrived under the county-city-town political system.

Grassroots - grew like Kudzu vine and strangled all political independent thinking, rationality or dissent to the prevailing political winds.

Sounds very familiar today - "California Scheming" - We are all thats LEFT, so you can't be RIGHT!

Regards Large Uniter8538

Posted by Large Uniter8538 2009-10-12 01:03|| 2009-10-12 01:03|| Front Page Top

#3 CA is so going to die. They think it's bad now, but they just can't seem to kick the habit.

Posted by gorb 2009-10-12 02:55|| 2009-10-12 02:55|| Front Page Top

#4 gorb,
CA's "too big to fair", so it will be 'rescued' by the rest of the country. Since the current rescuers are Dems it would be foolish for Californians to elect Pubs (though I think pubs are a good solution - a round of ale for the house!)

Posted by Glenmore 2009-10-12 08:04|| 2009-10-12 08:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Since all the current republican governor in CA seems to be able to do is stick a republican "face" and "brand" over Democratic policies driving the state under, one wonders what the point is of having one.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-10-12 09:32|| 2009-10-12 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 California needs to divide. Some time ago I saw a plan to split it into 5 pieces about the size of East coast states. Yeah it would mss up the plans but getting the politicians closer to the voters is a good thing.

Posted by rjschwarz 2009-10-12 10:14|| 2009-10-12 10:14|| Front Page Top

#7 ...well that explains "57 states".

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-10-12 10:59|| 2009-10-12 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 California is generally socially liberal and supports Democratic positions in that area. Voters have relied on ballot initiatives to keep the lid on taxes, but have not worried about spending as the economy of the last twenty years has supported massive increases in state expenditures.

That's all coming to an end, and at the beginning (of the end) it's political beneficiaries are the Democrats. One reason is that the governor is Republican and, right or wrong, the chief executive is the first in the line of fire.

The other reason is that the first to get hit are those that live off the state: workers, contractors and other beneficiaries. They are bitter at the Republican minority in the legislature for blocking tax increases, and that bitterness outweighs any gratitude taxpayers may have.

For the forseeable future I suspect the state will keep electing liberal Democrats.

Posted by DoDo 2009-10-12 11:13|| 2009-10-12 11:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't forget the Republican stood by and said nothing while the state was being overrun by illegal aliens. I've been here long enough to remember a time when the most popular name of newborn babies was not Jose. The Republicans can whine and cry all they want but from my perspective it's their own damn fault.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-12 11:53|| 2009-10-12 11:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Certain areas in California are red. San Diego, Orange County and the central valley for example.

Other areas are more liberal than the Democrats. Santa Cruz and up to the Oregon border with spots elsewhere.

The populace would be better off having more representative government.

Posted by rjschwarz 2009-10-12 15:58|| 2009-10-12 15:58|| Front Page Top

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Posted by mojo 2009-10-12 16:16|| 2009-10-12 16:16|| Front Page Top

#12 California's last big economic collapse - driven by the twin storms of the early '90's recession and the shuttering of much of the region's defense/aerospace industry - wound up driving millions of Republilcan and Republican-leaning working folk (like your humble correspondent) out of the state. The CA Republican Party just doesn't have sufficient demographic support to regain a legislative majority. California's over, folks - it's about to become the USA's own little combination of Bangladesh and the Balkans.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2009-10-12 17:12|| 2009-10-12 17:12|| Front Page Top

#13 Or just a straight-up civil war.

Actually, certain elements ['protected class' any surprise] are already in their own Bleeding ~~Kansas~~ Oakland.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-10-12 18:20|| 2009-10-12 18:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Sadly, both Procopius and Ricky are correct, CA is over. If you dobt that simply drive through L.A., S.F. most of the Central Valley towns and S.D. and down to the border. The demographics visible on the street will tell you they aren't going to vote for anything except more benefits and bribes. Sadly, since the tax base has fled or is fleeing, and the state is already completely bankrupt, watch the Nobama administration and the facre of Congress just vote other people's money to the state to keep the natives from becomming restless.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2009-10-12 19:26|| 2009-10-12 19:26|| Front Page Top

#15 As the old saying goes 'As California goes, so goes the nation.'

Posted by Glenmore 2009-10-12 19:40|| 2009-10-12 19:40|| Front Page Top

#16 Dear California,

Please Secede.

Signed,

The "flyover" states who have paid their bills and limited government.

Posted by OldSpook 2009-10-12 20:29|| 2009-10-12 20:29|| Front Page Top

#17 I lived in San Diego from 1997 through 2007 and, as a Goldwater/Reagan conservative, didn't find much in the Republican party there. The problem is that the old line Republican party is just too smug and off-putting. I might agree with them politically, but wouldn't want to live next to them, or for that matter, even have a beer with them. The Dems are thieves and the Republicans snobs, not much to choose from. California politicians, both Republican and Democrat, are just a cut above pond scum.

Posted by rwv 2009-10-12 20:37|| 2009-10-12 20:37|| Front Page Top

#18 not even Duncan Hunter(retired)/Duncan D. Hunter (my current Rep)? I have donated to both. They're what we should be asking our R's to be

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-10-12 21:07|| 2009-10-12 21:07|| Front Page Top

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