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2009-09-20 International-UN-NGOs

Barack Obama is gambling with Europe's security

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Posted by ryuge 2009-09-20 10:48|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 So what? He's not gambling with his security. And Europe has been more of a drag on us than a help. Could be doing us a favor.

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-09-20 11:29|| 2009-09-20 11:29|| Front Page Top

#2 Richard,
The countries in Eastern Europe have been good alies in my estimation -throwing in with us in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was the western europeans, those that have been under US protection for 60 years, that have been in opposition. Unfortunately, you can't screw Germany, Spain, Denmark and Norway without screwing the Poles and Czechs. This president will make it difficult for any foreign leader to trust the US for some time. And they can't really blame the leaders - it was the American people that put this knucklehead in office - and we were told who and what he was.

Posted by Rob06">Rob06 2009-09-20 12:16|| 2009-09-20 12:16|| Front Page Top

#3 "it was the American people that put this knucklehead in office - and we were told who and what he was"

Not entirely true, Rob06. We (at Rantburg and similar places) knew what he was; the majority of the country that gets their "news" from the Dinosaur Media - who did their level best to hide what he was - not so much.

Now they're finding out what we knew all along - and it's not pretty.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-09-20 12:26|| 2009-09-20 12:26|| Front Page Top

#4 I remember the Obama "apology" tour. Thousands came out. Was that in June? I wouldn't have thought they would to be thrown under the bus so soon.

Posted by JohnQC 2009-09-20 13:27|| 2009-09-20 13:27|| Front Page Top

#5 I have to say "So What" EUrope needs to provide their own security, True we almost all had ancestors from there, but the good ones left around 150 Years ago.
I say "defend Yourself and we'll help", not "We'll defend you, and you help".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-09-20 13:28|| 2009-09-20 13:28|| Front Page Top

#6 What is needed is a memo. Like the Zimmerman telegram, but supposedly from Obama to one of his underlings, to the effect of "Screw Europe! They have been sponging off us for a hundred years! If Russia wants to rule that collection of whiners, let them."

Imagine the glee in the European press, if just for a day or two they thought that memo was real.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-09-20 14:38|| 2009-09-20 14:38|| Front Page Top

#7 i am torn on this one..although i believe we should help the eastern euros but doing so helps the western part...it is high time the euro's pay for thier own defense -- felt this way long before our current baffoon in office -- let em pay the defense bill or pay the russian piper...i say be done with 'em, pull out of nato, bring our troops home and on the way home make glass out of iran. they've been asking for it for the last 30 years and would be a good example to the rest of the tinpots who have grown a pair in the last year

Posted by dan 2009-09-20 14:40|| 2009-09-20 14:40|| Front Page Top

#8 I fear not putting vast numbers of mooslims to the sword immediately after 9/11 may be our undoing. Things are a bit tense right at the moment with the election rapidly approaching.

Posted by Besoeker in Duitsland 2009-09-20 15:52|| 2009-09-20 15:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Richard,

Sitting in the Baltics, I would say that you are misinformed. Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have fought and died in Iraq and Afghanistan in larger proportion to our numbers than just anybody else.
We've tried to punch above our weight. And this is how we get paid for it. Be certain, Russia smells that it's free to meddle.

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2009-09-20 15:59|| 2009-09-20 15:59|| Front Page Top

#10 We (at Rantburg and similar places) knew what he was; the majority of the country that gets their "news" from the Dinosaur Media - who did their level best to hide what he was - not so much.

Barbara, I don't think it was just the MSM, even though their influence was VERY important. There was also that all-too-conveniently timed financial collapse last September - which didn't occur until Sarah had dragged McCain to a small but unmistakable and growing lead over The One.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2009-09-20 16:12|| 2009-09-20 16:12|| Front Page Top

#11 That too, Ricky. And I still think that has Soros painted all over it.

I remember reading (sometime this past winter) the Sec'y of the Treasury at that time saying something to the effect that money was being transferred out of the American banking system at an alarming rate and no one knew where it was going. That's bullsh*t; they at least knew where the first stop was, even if they couldn't follow that money to its final destination, and knew who owned the funds being transferred out. If we had any decent reporters left, they'd have followed up on this. Of course, we don't and they didn't (or maybe some did, only to discover it would make Bambi look bad if they reported the truth).

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-09-20 17:49|| 2009-09-20 17:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Barbara - So far nobody's EVER been able to convincingly refute this video, in which a Dem Congressman who runs one of Bawney Fwank's Finance subcommittees asserts that (1) in mid-September of '08, there was an "electronic run on the banks" to the tune of $500 billion in two hours, and (2) "someone threw us into the middle of the North Atlantic without a life jacket". This video's also still available (minus the C-Span caller's angry rant) on the Congressman's official website as well. This is the elephant in the middle of the room that the MSM and the government simply refuse to acknowledge - the VERY strong probability that the US financial system came under external attack, for the purpose of securing Obama's victory.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2009-09-20 18:33|| 2009-09-20 18:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks, Ricky - that's probably what I was thinking of.

And, as I said, of course they knew who was pulling all that money out, whether they will admit it or not....

Wonder if Andrew Breitbart would like to investigate this next?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-09-20 18:44|| 2009-09-20 18:44|| Front Page Top

#14 It seems to me Central Europe should form their own block. One that is (a) politically neutral and/or pro-Russian (b) Armed with Russian equipment.

They cannot trust West Europe or North America to defend them. Not in the long term. This way the Russians would see them as a market for arms sales and not a threat.

Posted by rjschwarz 2009-09-20 21:03|| 2009-09-20 21:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Pro-Russian and armed by Russia ... I seem to recall that the Eastern Europeans went to considerable trouble and risk to get rid of that setup a little while ago.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-20 21:28|| 2009-09-20 21:28|| Front Page Top

#16 "This way the Russians would see them as a ~~market for arms sales and not a threat~~ cat sees a nearby mouse: lunch."

Fixed that for ya', rj.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-09-20 21:47|| 2009-09-20 21:47|| Front Page Top

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