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2009-07-01 Caribbean-Latin America

White House backing of Zelaya starts to draw criticism

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Posted by Steve White 2009-07-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 The Hondurans followed their constitution and removed the former president for violating the constitution. The Honduran Congress voted for it, the Supreme Court ordered it, and the military carried it out as provided for in the Honduran constitution.

They did this because the Former president had violated the laws several times in attempting to change the constitution illegally, and in illegally firing a General after the Supreme court ordered that General reinstated. He fired the General because the General refused to carry out the illegal order the former president gave him to continue with an illegal plebiscite. He was replaced by a member of his own party, duly elected by the Congress in conformance with the Honduran Constitution, who plans to hold elections as scheduled this November.

OK Obama apologists, explain that one to me. Is Obama in love with would-be dictators and socialists, or is he just that fucking stupid?

Posted by OldSpook 2009-07-01 00:09|| 2009-07-01 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 "Is Obama in love with would-be dictators and socialists, or is he just that fucking stupid?"

I'd say both. He's a non-practicing lawyer that likes the rule of man as opposed to the rule of law.

Posted by Broadhead6 2009-07-01 00:12|| 2009-07-01 00:12|| Front Page Top

#3 What's really happening here, Oblahblahblah wants badly to set a precedent where the President (Doesn't matter where) "Can ignore both the constitution and the law with impunity".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-07-01 01:50|| 2009-07-01 01:50|| Front Page Top

#4 New deployment area for US forces?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-07-01 02:59|| 2009-07-01 02:59|| Front Page Top

#5 That pick speaks volumes. If I were running the Republican elections I would pound home the theme: "Do we want to become Cuba or Venezuela?" or "When you find yourself aligned with Cuba it's time to change direction." Mr. Steele feel free to use these.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2009-07-01 04:48|| 2009-07-01 04:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Is Obama in love with would-be dictators and socialists, or is he just that fucking stupid?

Occam's Razor sez, "He's on the other side."

Posted by ed 2009-07-01 08:01|| 2009-07-01 08:01|| Front Page Top

#7 0Bama really, really likes the idea of trashing the constitution and ditching term limits.

All hail emperor 0bama!

Posted by Parabellum 2009-07-01 10:53|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/] 2009-07-01 10:53|| Front Page Top

#8 What's really happening here, Oblahblahblah wants badly to set a precedent where the President (Doesn't matter where) "Can ignore both the constitution and the law with impunity".
Redneck Jim, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Posted by WolfDog 2009-07-01 12:13|| 2009-07-01 12:13|| Front Page Top

#9 "Is Obama in love with would-be dictators and socialists, or is he just that fucking stupid?"

Yes

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-07-01 13:19|| 2009-07-01 13:19|| Front Page Top

#10 Here's an English translation of one of the relevant articles of the Honduran Constitution.

Article 239 â No citizen that has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President.

Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.

This is certainly not something that would be compatible with the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution. However I believe it is a legitimate safeguard against a descent into dictatorship, especially in a political culture that has already made plenty of bad experiences with "Caudillos/Presidents for Life".

In any case if that provision of the Honduran Constitution is so offensive to the "international community", why has no one objected until now?

Given the nature of e.g. the Karzai regime (The penalty for leaving or criticizing Islam is death!), that is not only tolerated but actively supported by NATO this mobbing of Honduras simply disgusting.

If "Realism" dictates we support Karzai, it should logically dictate that we at least tolerate the Hondurans and respect their sovereignty.

Posted by Omeagum Ulomosing9137 2009-07-01 13:37|| 2009-07-01 13:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Bottom line:

1) The removal of Zelaya was legitimate
2) The troops removing him should have worn white gloves

Posted by European Conservative 2009-07-01 14:03|| 2009-07-01 14:03|| Front Page Top

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