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2009-01-28 Africa Subsaharan
President Obama leads US drive to topple Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe
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Posted by Fred 2009-01-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Hey China, Russia... I need a WIN in Africa. I'll give you the Panama Canal, GITMO, uranium for Iran, and free gas for Caribbean naval exercises for ten years for........tell'em Rahm, make it happen!
Posted by Besoeker 2009-01-28 06:56||   2009-01-28 06:56|| Front Page Top

#2 An example of how lefties love to waste time where no American interests are at stake. If its such a problem,let China and Russia with their "significant financial interests" sort it out.
Posted by NCMike 2009-01-28 09:00||   2009-01-28 09:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Why doesn't he appoint a special envoy to discuss it with Mugabe? Why are direct negotiaitons appropriate with Iran, but not Zimbabwe?

And how much will it cost us to clean up the mess?
Posted by DoDo 2009-01-28 11:15||   2009-01-28 11:15|| Front Page Top

#4 Did he get this idea from watching the latest episodes of "24"???
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2009-01-28 12:42||   2009-01-28 12:42|| Front Page Top

#5 While replicating his economic meltdown here at home.
Posted by mojo 2009-01-28 14:24||   2009-01-28 14:24|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't have much faith in Obama, but I have to call bs on the above comments. Can any of you honestly say you would NOT have praised the decision to get rid of of mugabe *spit*, if it had been made by President Bush?


Posted by Dcreeper 2009-01-28 15:12||   2009-01-28 15:12|| Front Page Top

#7 And how much will it cost us to clean up the mess?

And just WHY should America be interested in any way, shape, or fashion in "Cleaning up this mess"?
Posted by Rednek Jim 2009-01-28 15:30||   2009-01-28 15:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Can any of you honestly say you would NOT have praised the decision to get rid of of mugabe *spit*, if it had been made by President Bush?

We probably would have. But in the grand scheme of things, I highly doubt we'd be seeing such laudatory phrases as "fresh approach to toppling" had President Bush made the decision.

In any case, the Bush decision was to let Zimbabwe's neighbors handle it, which would have likely been praised had it been also made by a Democrat.

Either way, Bush would have been screwed.

Color us cynical.
Posted by Pappy 2009-01-28 16:35||   2009-01-28 16:35|| Front Page Top

#9 With events like these, I generally look for what is NOT being said. What could possibly motivate a newly elected President or anyone else for that matter, to jump into a pot like this on his first week in office...?
Posted by Besoeker 2009-01-28 16:51||   2009-01-28 16:51|| Front Page Top

#10 With everything else out there for him to focus on - Zimbabwe, well it seems like a shift in policy to focus more on African issues. Seems to me to be a more ethnic decision than a strategic US interest decision. But then I'm a bit jaded in that we will walk away from Iraq and AQ and give the edge to people that supported, financed, and executed the most lethal strike on US soil in history. For the moment, this president is not even playing on the same field as our enemies. God help us...
Posted by 49 Pan 2009-01-28 17:23||   2009-01-28 17:23|| Front Page Top

#11 This is just another way of draining America's resources, just like the current destruction of the regular budgetary process where all the socialist wish-list programs get first pick at the process and everyone else (including the military budget) gets to fight the entitlements for the leftovers a year or more down the road.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-01-28 17:49||   2009-01-28 17:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Can any of you honestly say you would NOT have praised the decision to get rid of of mugabe *spit*, if it had been made by President Bush?

I don't recall seeing any comments here exhorting Bush to overthrow Mugabe - maybe I'm wrong and there were some, but I don't recall seeing them. Nice though it would be to topple him, it would put good servicemen's lives at risk for little to no national strategic benefit. Mugabe's a problem for Zimbabwe, primarily, and the rest of Africa, secondly. Except for some brave individuals in Zimbabwe, neither of those groups have done much at all to warrant support overthrowing Mugabe - in fact it's been pretty clear that most of his neighbours like the guy (presumably because he makes them look not quite so bad by comparison).
Posted by Bulldog 2009-01-28 18:18||   2009-01-28 18:18|| Front Page Top

#13 I would not have been praising this decision even if made by Pres. Bush.

It's sucking resources away from much more strategic fronts in the WoT and refocusing them on B.F.Zimbabwe.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-01-28 18:54||   2009-01-28 18:54|| Front Page Top

#14 Can any of you honestly say you would NOT have praised the decision to get rid of of mugabe *spit*, if it had been made by President Bush?


I can honestly say that I would have been against it. If we get involved in overthrowing governments then we assume responsibility for the aftermath. I don't think we have the ability to put in a stable government without a long term commitment of troops and I'm not interested in paying to clean up the mess.
Posted by DoDo 2009-01-28 19:21||   2009-01-28 19:21|| Front Page Top

#15 CNN was repor on unrest in MADGASCAR this AM.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-01-28 19:43||   2009-01-28 19:43|| Front Page Top

#16 What could possibly motivate a newly elected President or anyone else for that matter, to jump into a pot like this on his first week in office...?

If you're trying to show the world you've hit the deck-plates running, you do stuff like this. Basically it's "make a list of everything Bush did or didn't do, then start doing the opposite".
Posted by Pappy 2009-01-28 21:27||   2009-01-28 21:27|| Front Page Top

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