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2008-11-16 India-Pakistan
Russian aircraft carrier ready in 2012 if India pays $2 bln more
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Posted by john frum 2008-11-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 The Vikrant, now being built in Cochin shipyard, Kerala, will hit the water in 2010 and is epected to enter service in 2012. A sister ship will be ready by 2017.
So India may have two Indian built aircraft carriers before the Gorshkov is ready.
Posted by john frum 2008-11-16 08:19||   2008-11-16 08:19|| Front Page Top

#2 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Gorshkov today.
Posted by SteveS 2008-11-16 10:51||   2008-11-16 10:51|| Front Page Top

#3 LOL Steve - I wasa thinkrn the same thing and got beat badly to the punch
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-11-16 11:24||   2008-11-16 11:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Way, way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay OT but did anyone else ever notice that Swee'Pea looked an awful lot like Whimpy?

Whimpy you dog!!

Just sayn' . . . .
Posted by Ferd Berfel 2008-11-16 11:40||   2008-11-16 11:40|| Front Page Top

#5 But WAIT, order NOW and we'll send you TWO Russian aircraft carriers! Just pay shipping and handling.
Posted by DMFD 2008-11-16 12:05||   2008-11-16 12:05|| Front Page Top

#6  I wasa thinkrn the same thing

Heh. Obviously an instance of great minds thinking alike. And I was worried about being too obscure!
Posted by SteveS 2008-11-16 12:39||   2008-11-16 12:39|| Front Page Top

#7 But WAIT! Ther's MORE!

The keyword in this well-known phrase is WAIT.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-11-16 14:02||   2008-11-16 14:02|| Front Page Top

#8 BY various MSM-Net sources, the NERPA Sub is reportedly only leased to INDIA for as long as 10 years, NOT necess leased-to-own as other sources had claimed, an arrangement which could prove legally and diplom tricky iff RUSSIA OR INDIA NEED TO USE THE SHIP + SIMILAR IN COMBAT MISSIONS.

Pragmatically, wid the USN-DOD itself debating the LT utility of the CV21 class versus extending the service lives of the NIMITZ-Class, as given the advances in super-tech + proposed OWG-NWO "1000-Flag/Nation" Global Task Force = UNO Global Naval Police, smaller CV's like GORSHKOV are basically INTERNATIONAL AIR-SEA CADET TRAINING SHIPS FOR JAMES T. KIRK'S STARFLEET + FEDERATION [OF EARTH/TERRAN SYS SPACE COLONIES].
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-16 17:41||   2008-11-16 17:41|| Front Page Top

#9 First thingys first - RUSSIA wants the $$$, but I doubt it will turn the GORSHKOV, etc. over to India iff the latter appears to Russ to becom destabilized wid risk of national breakup ala PAN-ASIA ISLAMIST THREAT 2015-2020. Russ itself is subject to many of the same Islamist pressures ala 2015-2020, and ultimately may decide to keep the Gorshy for itself anyway in order to milpol CYA its own domestic arse agz Radical Islamism!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-16 17:49||   2008-11-16 17:49|| Front Page Top

#10 There is a huge difference between owning a carrier and being able to operate it.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-11-16 20:06||   2008-11-16 20:06|| Front Page Top

#11 DB, apparently there is also a huge difference between building a carrier and making money selling it.
Posted by Skunky Glins 5***">Skunky Glins 5***  2008-11-16 21:40||   2008-11-16 21:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Deacon, the Indian Navy has operated carriers since 1956 and used one of them successfully in the 1971 war with Pakistan.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-11-16 23:55||   2008-11-16 23:55|| Front Page Top

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