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2008-10-30 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
First October snow since 1922 blankets London as global warming bill debated
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-10-30 03:22|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 We know so much less than what we think we do. The truth about the climate will be seen much differently in 50 years than either side can even imagine now. Keep the entrances to your mind open for more climate data. There is so much more to learn.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-10-30 04:47||   2008-10-30 04:47|| Front Page Top

#2 "As we destroy industry we'll be more dependent on shipping and aviation for our imports!" he said. Not if the UK's population drops by 90%, which is the real goal of the global-warmists.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-10-30 05:12||   2008-10-30 05:12|| Front Page Top

#3 All of this effort to cut 1/3,000 of a degree.
Politician can be plain loco when the mania rots their brains.
Posted by tipper 2008-10-30 08:24||   2008-10-30 08:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Every now and then, you'd think that even to most brazen but reasoned atheist, ie Hitchen, has got to ask, how would a God communicate with lesser beings? Like when you were a kid and mom just gave you that 'eye' that said "enough" without any need of verbal communication. Heh.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-30 08:54||   2008-10-30 08:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Man Made Global Warming, the Tower of Babel for the new millennium.
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-10-30 09:15||   2008-10-30 09:15|| Front Page Top

#6 We will now listen to opposing arguments.
I got one. Look out the friggin window, ya morons.
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-30 09:27||   2008-10-30 09:27|| Front Page Top

#7 This kind of thing makes me understand how people can vote for Barack Obama.
Posted by Betty 2008-10-30 09:56||   2008-10-30 09:56|| Front Page Top

#8 all i know is that I feel bad for our Brit brothers over there keeping the faith. Man, and I thought our elected leaders were morons.
Posted by Broadhead6 2008-10-30 09:57||   2008-10-30 09:57|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm all for global warming legislation as long as it's over there. The more the merrier. It improves the heck out of our relative competitive position. The Euros already pay twice the US price for electricity. If they insist on quadruple the price for less reliability, then I say "Charge!". More wind turbines and carbon taxes, over there, please.
Posted by ed 2008-10-30 10:06||   2008-10-30 10:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Ed, Mercantilism isn't a log term success. It almost as ignorant as socialism with it's zero-sum falsehoods.

If you were a salesman would you rather deal with a poor person or a rich person?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-10-30 10:14||   2008-10-30 10:14|| Front Page Top

#11 It's not about global warming or climate change.


It's about power.



No matter whether the issue is global warming, over-population, famine, DDT, or AIDS, the solution proposed by our 'elites' is always the same: they need to have more political power so that they can tell the rest of us what to do. Because they know better, you see.
Posted by Steve White 2008-10-30 10:18||   2008-10-30 10:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Bright Pebbles, you are assuming free trade where both side will equalize sat the same level. Free trade is far is far from is happening. More like freeish trade for those importing to the USA. Tariffs for US exporters. For example, Germany->US auto tariff is 2%, German tariffs are 10% at point of customer delivery + other fees, like vintage. Then parts are tariffed at 5-15%. That is a huge competitive disadvantage that any foreigner has to overcome. The result a $50 billion/year trade deficit for more years than I can count. That's $600-700,000 direct middle class jobs lost, not counting the multiplicative effect of that money staying in the country. The effect is seen in the hollowing out of the US industrial heartland and rise of truly craptacular Marxists like Obama. Let's not talk about other countries w/ tariff of 30% and multi-hundred billion dollar trade surpluses.

Sorry BP, free trade for thee, not for me doesn't impress me.
Posted by ed 2008-10-30 10:34||   2008-10-30 10:34|| Front Page Top

#13 Free trade is far from what is happening.
Posted by ed 2008-10-30 10:36||   2008-10-30 10:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Can we rescind Gore's Nobel Consolation Peace Prize?
Posted by JohnQC 2008-10-30 10:52||   2008-10-30 10:52|| Front Page Top

#15 The real result is extra costs for german consumers.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-10-30 12:24||   2008-10-30 12:24|| Front Page Top

#16 The real result is good paying German autoworker jobs and extra spending cash. The result in Michigan and Ohio not so good.
Posted by ed 2008-10-30 12:35||   2008-10-30 12:35|| Front Page Top

#17 GM built itself into a pension fund that forgot how to make decent cars.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-10-30 14:48||   2008-10-30 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Iff Mankind proves unable to control BLACK/WORM-HOLE specific SPACE TRAVEL, then as per MSM-Net Articles we will have 1.1Bilyuhn-or-so years to dev a SUPERMASSIVE, SUPER-TECHY, PLANET-MOVING "SAIL" TO MOVE THE PLANET AWAY FROM THE SOLAR HEAT [Space Rock(s), Solar-Gamma Ray Burst, Sun Nova etc., notwithstnding]. BEFORE INTENSIFIED HEAT WIPES OUT ALL HUMAN + BIOTIC LFE ON EARTH??? The "Sail" may save the Earth from Warming, but may not save the Earth from our Sun going Nova as dependent on its pertinent level of tech at that time.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-10-30 23:33||   2008-10-30 23:33|| Front Page Top

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