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2008-10-16 Home Front: Politix
Obama Laments FOX News Cost Him in Polls
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Posted by Sherry 2008-10-16 00:39|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 He continues that he is being typecast as "the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effet, politically correct, arrogant liberal.

You left out "Socialist who came up thru the corrupt Chicago political machine and has a sordid collection of left-wing, America-hating associates".
Posted by SteveS 2008-10-16 02:15||   2008-10-16 02:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Plus he's a total douche, that never helps. He could start redeeming himself by proving his citizenship status once and for all.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-10-16 07:30||   2008-10-16 07:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Obama calls that comment (clinging to guns & religion - ed) "my biggest boneheaded move,"

I think his 'Spread your the Wealth around' comment will hurt him just as badly. What a freakin' communist!

If McCain doesn't have a YouTube clip on it, I hope he's working on one.
Posted by Raj 2008-10-16 08:19||   2008-10-16 08:19|| Front Page Top

#4 "Will no one rid me of this noxious news organization?" So sayeth Prince Obama.

Nancy and Harry will be only all too eager to comply once Obama becomes king. (Fairness Doctrine)
Posted by WTF 2008-10-16 08:25||   2008-10-16 08:25|| Front Page Top

#5 latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effet, politically correct, arrogant liberal

Hold on, I'm just getting started.
Posted by KBK 2008-10-16 08:33||   2008-10-16 08:33|| Front Page Top

#6 He continues that he is being typecast as "the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effet, politically correct, arrogant liberal. Who wants somebody like that?

So what part of that description is NOT true?
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2008-10-16 08:41|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2008-10-16 08:41|| Front Page Top

#7 "I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls,"

List of things to do once I'm a president?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-10-16 08:44||   2008-10-16 08:44|| Front Page Top

#8 He continues that he is being correctly described typecast as "the latte-sipping, wealth re-distro, New York Times-reading, Muzzie loving, Fox TV hating, Volvo-driving, race bating, no-gun-owning, jiving effet, liberation theology, politically correct, arrogant, upity socialist liberal. Who wants somebody like that?"

Not me.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-16 08:45||   2008-10-16 08:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Socialist, liar -- either one of those is true enough to lose my vote.

"...Obama tries to explain a comment he made..."
Give him credit: he's persistent. Most people would give up after unsuccessfully spinning it three or four times.
Posted by Darrell 2008-10-16 08:58||   2008-10-16 08:58|| Front Page Top

#10 "...Obama tries to explain a comment he made..."
Give him credit: he's persistent. Most people would give up after unsuccessfully spinning it three or four times.
Posted by Darrell


Just following his master's lesson.

“A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” V.I. Lenin
Posted by DLR 2008-10-16 09:35||   2008-10-16 09:35|| Front Page Top

#11 He continues that he is being typecast as "the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, politically correct, arrogant liberal."

Yeah? So? What's your point?
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-16 09:51||   2008-10-16 09:51|| Front Page Top

#12 Obama is definitely following the ideology of winning people over that worked for Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, etc.
Posted by DarthVader 2008-10-16 09:51||   2008-10-16 09:51|| Front Page Top

#13 My view of the chose one as well
Posted by Beavis 2008-10-16 10:14||   2008-10-16 10:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Amazing. The guy has the audacity to complain about the one cable news outlet that actually tries to give McCain a fair shot.

He makes it sound like he's down in the "polls" by 14 points, not up. Saul Alinsky would be very, very proud.

God help us all.
Posted by eltoroverde 2008-10-16 10:21||   2008-10-16 10:21|| Front Page Top

#15 I smell "fairness doctrine"...
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-10-16 10:49||   2008-10-16 10:49|| Front Page Top

#16 Saul Alinsky is burning in Hell right now, and he richly deserves it.
Posted by Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-10-16 10:57||   2008-10-16 10:57|| Front Page Top

#17 Yeah, supposedly, according to the polls Obama is up by double digits. Sounds like he doesn't believe them either. Just prior to election day is the only time polls get tested by reality. It behooves pollsters to pass that test. Expect the polls to "show" tightening in the next two weeks even if the electorate doesn't move.

Measuring traditional likely voters, Obama is actually up by 3% +/- simple sampling error. And not counting any Bradley effect type bias. This thing isn't over, and Obama knows it.
Posted by Minister of funny walks 2008-10-16 11:21||   2008-10-16 11:21|| Front Page Top

#18 From Red State

Conversations with an internal pollster for Obama...

I have an interesting story to relay that took place earlier this week between my boss (a senior VP in the company I work for) and one of the Obama campaigns' internal pollsters. Just to note, my boss is a republican and was meeting the Obama rep over lunch for other reasons. Politics obviously came up due to his line of work.

He asked my boss what her political leanings were and they did some chit chat around the issues and the impressions each had on the state of the race. What happened next was more than fascinating and should be a reminder to all of us to buck up and remain strong. All is not lost. In fact, we may be in a much better spot than we think - despite the national polls and what the daily media drumbeat to give up.

He asked my boss what she thought about Sarah Palin. While my boss is a republican she hasn't been nearly as enamored with her as most of our base. She noted concern about Sarah's experience, but said that she is still voting for McCain. As she was explaining her perspective it dawned on her to ask why he (the Obama internal pollster) was interested in her view of Palin. He replied that Obama's campaign is extremely nervous about the energized republican base and what he called the "unkown factor" regarding Palin's draw as a candidate.

In the polls they're conducting around the country, and my boss wasn't able to relay specific numbers, the Obama campaign is very, very worried about how Palin appears to be energizing whole groups of people who don't typically get energized about politics, precisely because she appeals so strongly to the middle class, as well as women and dissatisfied republicans that stayed home in 2006. More than that, they don't know how to gauge and predict the support of people typically turned off by politics, but that are enamored with her "up from the bootstraps" appeal.

I say all of this because this pollster conveyed strong concern about their standing going into the homestretch. They are very concerned about winning the vote of the middle class and whole swaths of the electorate they consider the "unkowns." In fact, and based on her conversation with this internal pollster for Obama, he's not ahead in the polls as we're being told. He's at best tied.

Look, take it for what it is. But what I know is that we're being sold a bill of goods by the media. Why? Not to be conspiratorial, but they likely just want to dispirit us, precisely because Obama has yet to seal the deal. He should be way ahead this season, but he's not.

I'll close by saying that we have several weeks left. The Obama camp internally knows they haven't wrapped this thing up.
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-16 11:47||   2008-10-16 11:47|| Front Page Top

#19 "Even Fox news says.."
I also noticed his quote of a poll by an anonymous media source. People should know these polls are BS - polling Independents or Republicans and you are more likely to get a straight answer rather than the obamanauts giving the most extreme polling answers to skew the responses. The O camp should be concerned especially after his trouncing showing last night. He should be laughed off the stage for his 30 minute infomercial - maybe get Miss Cleo, Dr. Ho or Matthew Lesko to provide the narrative?

Would explain the, "Hah we already won so don't bother to vote" narrative out to dispair not just the Republicans but especially the Independents.
Posted by swksvolFF 2008-10-16 12:16||   2008-10-16 12:16|| Front Page Top

#20 TU -- thanks for this great lead-in. i've just posted my first Fisking to Rantburg -- someone forwarded me NOW's fulmination on the Guvnah and it was just begging for snark...

now i'll go back to baking the cupcakes... TW, this batch is for you!
Posted by Querent 2008-10-16 13:04||   2008-10-16 13:04|| Front Page Top

#21 So what part of that description is NOT true?

According to James Taranto at Opinion Journal, the Volvo-driving part.
Posted by Pappy 2008-10-16 14:15||   2008-10-16 14:15|| Front Page Top

#22 That's true. I think he's an SUV guy. Jeep Grand Cherokee as I remember.
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-16 14:17||   2008-10-16 14:17|| Front Page Top

#23 Ooooooh, Querent, I feel loved! I'll go read your fisking next. :-)
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-10-16 14:17||   2008-10-16 14:17|| Front Page Top

#24 a Jeep Grand Cherokee get considerably less mileage than a Volvo. how does that fit with the energy plank thingy......
Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-10-16 15:18||   2008-10-16 15:18|| Front Page Top

#25 You think he cares? Climate change is for the "little people".
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-16 15:29||   2008-10-16 15:29|| Front Page Top

#26 USN - I'm sure he keeps his tired inflated and rotated which makes up for _everything_.
Posted by CrazyFool 2008-10-16 15:31||   2008-10-16 15:31|| Front Page Top

#27 CF, I sincerely hope you meant 'tires,' I for one like to keep my 'tired' inflated... uhoh, wrong blog.
Posted by Onehunglo. 2008-10-16 17:05||   2008-10-16 17:05|| Front Page Top

#28 your right - i meant TIRES not tired :) Sometimes spell checking doesn't help.
Posted by CrazyFool 2008-10-16 17:53||   2008-10-16 17:53|| Front Page Top

#29 By someone far more clever than I:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
Posted by Minister of funny walks 2008-10-16 20:12||   2008-10-16 20:12|| Front Page Top

#30 Obama told McCain that 100% of McCains ads were negative.

What does that mean.

That is dictator talk. That any ad for anyone else running for President is a negative ad.

This squirrel is a Maxist.
Posted by Claiter Speaking for Boskone9131 2008-10-16 23:37||   2008-10-16 23:37|| Front Page Top

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