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'Joe the Plumber' happy to help candidates make point

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-10-16 15:24|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Now they're taking shots at him...

HOLLAND, Ohio - Joe the Plumber said Thursday he doesn't have a license and doesn't need one. Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, the nickname Republican John McCain bestowed on him during Wednesday's presidential debate, said he works for a small plumbing company that does residential work. Because he works for someone else, he doesn't need a license, he said.

But the county Wurzelbacher and his employer live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses. Neither Wurzelbacher nor his employer are licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.

BLASPHEMER!! INFIDEL!!!

Posted by tu3031 2008-10-16 15:37|| 2008-10-16 15:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Joe Biden took a shot at him this morning.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-10-16 15:52|| 2008-10-16 15:52|| Front Page Top

#3 I just caught a bit of Fox News and Obama took a swipe at Joe the Plumbmer, too. "How many plumbers do you know that make a quarter of a million dollars a year?" I think he entirely missed the point. Joe didn't say he would make 250,000 a year but that his company would. Some Congressman on Fox said, "His name isn't Joe and he's not even a plumber". DO NOT question The One.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-10-16 16:10|| 2008-10-16 16:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Oh goody, keep that line going to the election date demonizing the common man, the one that works and actually pays taxes. The Proletariat is suppose to be dependent upon the Party and the State [and the One]. All counter-revolutionaries will be dealt with accordingly! The Mask(tm) is off. No one will be entitled afterward to whine "I didn't know".

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-16 16:29|| 2008-10-16 16:29|| Front Page Top

#5 I just come in the back door of our building, and there is a plumbers van parked there with big orange " Joe the Plumber for President" signs on both sides.

Posted by Grunter 2008-10-16 16:54|| 2008-10-16 16:54|| Front Page Top

#6 A "Sole Owner" of a 'small' plumbing contracting firm tells me that it's pretty easy to have over $250K of INCOME in an average year if you employ a couple of field workers. From that you pay your material expenses, taxes, wages, insurance, permits, etc. He's seriously looking at a LLC or some other corporate structure, but those present problems, too.

By the way, the Small Business Administration lists a "Small Business" as one having less than SEVEN MILLION Dollars in a year and a "Small Farmer" as one who has less than $750K yearly income (both before expenses).

How does the 'Small Farm' income fit into the One's plan?

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-10-16 16:59|| 2008-10-16 16:59|| Front Page Top

#7 So if The One tries to throw J.T.P. under the bus, will we get an eyeful of plumbers' crack???

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-10-16 17:00|| 2008-10-16 17:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Mister Blue
Words and Music by Tom Paxton

Good morning Mister Blue, we've got our eyes on you.
The evidence is clear, that you've been scheming.
You like to steal away and while away the day.
You like to spend an hour dreaming.
What will it take, to whip you into line?
A broken heart?
A broken head?
It can be arranged.
It can be arranged.

Step softly Mister Blue, we know what's best for you.
We know where your precious dreams will take you.
You've got a slot to fill, and fill that slot you will.
You'll learn to love it, or we'll break you.
Oh, what will it take, to whip you into line?
A broken heart?
A broken head?
It can be arranged.
It can be arranged.

Be careful Mister Blue this phase you're going through,
Can lead you nowhere else, but to disaster.
Excuse us while we grin, you've worn our patience thin.
It's time to show you who's your master.
What will it take, to whip you into line?
A broken heart?
A broken head?
It can be arranged.
It can be arranged.

Don't worry Mister Blue, we'll take good care of you.
Just think of it as sense and not surrender.
But never think again, that you can think again,
Or you'll get something you'll remember.
What will it take to whip you into line?
A broken heart?
A broken head?
It can be arranged.
It can be arrange

Posted by bruce 2008-10-16 17:04|| 2008-10-16 17:04|| Front Page Top

#9 Another point, in the construction market today, the average small 'mechanical contractor' (Plumbing, Heating, Electrical) nets about 1 - 1-1/2 percent after expenses on the national average. That little bit of cash helps secure their loans and buys the trucks and tools for the next year. Cut a part of that out and they become less competitive against a larger contractor with more cash flow.

This just stinks...........

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-10-16 17:11|| 2008-10-16 17:11|| Front Page Top

#10 MR: A "Sole Owner" of a 'small' plumbing contracting firm tells me that it's pretty easy to have over $250K of INCOME in an average year if you employ a couple of field workers.

I think that's revenues rather than income. Income is the bottom line, after you've paid all expenses.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-10-16 17:20|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-10-16 17:20|| Front Page Top

#11 The 'gross income' you make in your day-to-day 9-5 job is before expenses, also. Revenues in a 'Sole Ownership' (Sole Proprietorship or Partnership - not a corporation) are treated as 'personal income' by the IRS. Yes, you can deduct your expenses, as you can with a normal 9-5 job, and the 'bottom line' is your 'net taxable income'. This will affect over half of the small businesses and farms out there.

What's left over after taxes is the 'little bit of cash' that I spoke of. If more of that gets taken away, the 'non-competitiveness kicks in.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-10-16 17:33|| 2008-10-16 17:33|| Front Page Top

#12 Heard on the radipo this morning that Joe isn't even registered to vote.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-10-16 18:20|| 2008-10-16 18:20|| Front Page Top

#13 Mike, I heard they got him for littering, and _everyone moved away from him on the bench there_...

Posted by Tranquil Mechanical Yeti 2008-10-16 18:26|| 2008-10-16 18:26|| Front Page Top

#14 He is registered to vote, the voter registration has his name mis-spelled. Why am I not surprised.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-10-16 18:47|| 2008-10-16 18:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Well, we all know how well the previous swipe at the "common man" worked. All of us clinging to guns and religion and the like.

Keep up the winning strategy, dumbass.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-10-16 19:29|| 2008-10-16 19:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Just got back from town, the truck stop in Haines City, Fl big sign is Flashing the message, "JOE THE PLUMBER GETS IT, DO YOU?"
If Obama gets elected I imagine Joe will get a perpetual tax audit.

Posted by bruce 2008-10-16 20:30|| 2008-10-16 20:30|| Front Page Top

#17 "How many plumbers do you know that make half-a-million a year?"

Not a smart question..... 'cause each time Joe the Plumber is interviewed, he brings up that S word. Yea, that S word that really would have made the difference in this election, if only raised early.

Joe said Socialism..... he said, "I have a set of parents, I don't need another one."

America finally heard, Socialism.... and that is what The One has kept hidden..... fly-over country folks understand that word Socialism.

The One just doesn't understand the essence of small business, the essence of working to get what I get, and I don't want it given to me.

That's what I heard today -- via radio, Internet, etc.....

My thought is that the anger that is being seen from folks, was the point Joe made.... lots of lots of folks were keeping iside of them, that S word, knowing that is what is coming, not wanting it, not knowing how to voice it, and Joe just spoke for the nation!

And the voters of this election have now gotten vocal.

Oh.... and I know one plumber that is fuming over The One's, "Anyone here know a plumber that makes a quarter a million a year?"

From the San Antonio area call in shows today.... whoa, The One (and the media who have shown them as dumb and stupid) insulted every worker man and woman, who is out there working.

Could be a game changer -- and yes, I did hear folks saying today.... yea, I'm changing my vote...

Let's hope enough feel that way.... my money's on Joe.

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-10-16 20:33|| 2008-10-16 20:33|| Front Page Top

#18 Please Lord, more Joe's for the Obamessiah.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-16 20:59|| 2008-10-16 20:59|| Front Page Top

#19 He's also under a tax lien for $1000+/- - woe be unto him whose fealty to the state is incomplete!

I hope some sharp 527 is working on the script - Joe W. has real media presence, and for kicks he should appear at his next sit-down clinging to his gun and bible.

Posted by Don Vito Omeling5062 2008-10-16 21:06|| 2008-10-16 21:06|| Front Page Top

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