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2008-06-13 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Steve White 2008-06-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 to protect our homes we must also fear our own government.

Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-06-13 03:55|| 2008-06-13 03:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Note to gun control advocates and voters.

If and when the gov't comes to take our guns, we WILL resist them.

But before we do, some might be inclined to take out those who put the takers into position to do the taking.

Just think on it.

Posted by no mo uro 2008-06-13 06:10|| 2008-06-13 06:10|| Front Page Top

#3 I disagree, the NRA has ceded a LOT of ground in the past. They tend to make a common mistake, assuming that the gun control advocates care one whit for logic or compromise.

So the NRA offers concession after concession, while making reasonable arguments backed by statistics. In turn, the gun control advocates take those concessions and demand even more, all the while crystal clear about their own motives, and not wavering an inch.

They want a total ban on all firearm and ammunition sales and confiscation of firearms. And anything that advances that agenda they will take. Reason, logic and statistics are meaningless to them, as they do not advance their cause.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-06-13 09:07|| 2008-06-13 09:07|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm waiting to see the new interpretation of what the Second Amendment says/doesn't say by this court before assuming anything. Why would anyone be surprised not to be surprised?

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-06-13 09:20|| 2008-06-13 09:20|| Front Page Top

#5 'moose is right. It's the grassroots RKBA groups at the state & local levels that really keep the politico's feet to the fire on RKBA issues. In ohio the Buckeye Firearms groups has really done well in getting the vote/word out about passing the new Castle Doctrine and firing up those "police chiefs" that tried to thwart the measure. We figure that 1 phone call from a constituent is equal to the opinion of 1,000 voters - that's why it's so damn important for you to call your congresscritters on any issue you deem necessary.

I'm a lifetime NRA member and I've had to call and bitch at NRA HQ about them giving high pro-RKBA ratings to Rinos and Dems that I know at the state level in MI & OH suck ass when it comes to supporting RKBA initiatives. Sometimes the NRA has done stuff that was a little too politically expedient for my taste but overall they're the big org that does get RKBA stuff done @ the nat'l level. Kind of like a better, faster, leaner GOP.

BTW - the panzies in the Brady group don't dislike guns per se, they dislike the supposed culture of those that do enjoy firearms - you know, the backward hick-NASCAR watching-deer hunting-beer swilling-racist that's clinging to his guns, religion, and that last copy of guns and ammo magazine...

Posted by Broadhead6 2008-06-13 10:52|| 2008-06-13 10:52|| Front Page Top

#6 on behalf of the rest of us, thanks for your efforts Broadhead6.

Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-06-13 12:32|| 2008-06-13 12:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Broadhead6: I have reached a strange conclusion and would be interested on your take on it.

I think that a lot of anti-gun sentiment comes from people who are literally afraid of the *noise* guns make. That is, guns to them are scary and should be outlawed *not* because they are bullet launchers, but because they *startle*.

I know it sounds loopy, but I truly think that there are a lot of neurotics out there who freak out and have a panic attack when they hear a loud, unexpected or even anticipated noise.

We laugh at people who jump when they hear a loud, sharp noise. But a lot of them are terrified so much that they are messed up for an hour or more. It gives them nightmares.

Some veterans develop a strong physiological response to popping noises like guns or firecrackers, but very few become gun phobic because of it.

But what if there is a fairly common gun *noise* phobia that afflicts people even with very limited exposure to guns? Unlike most phobias, where there is little the phobics can do to prevent it, they might imagine gun control as "making the bad noises stop".

The fear of loud noises is called both Acousticophobia and Ligyrophobia. It would be interesting to see how prevalent they are among the gun control crowd.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-06-13 13:38|| 2008-06-13 13:38|| Front Page Top

#8 Moose, that might be part of it but I have friends who will not even touch a firearm. They are afraid of the firearm itself. If I take it apart they won't even touch any of the parts. That's a serious phobia.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-06-13 14:08|| 2008-06-13 14:08|| Front Page Top

#9 "Moose, I think you've got it.
The pansys are afraid of the noise.

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-06-13 14:09|| 2008-06-13 14:09|| Front Page Top

#10 I dunno about McCain supporting 2nd Amendement rights. I tried to post an article the other day about McCain saying Bloomberg wasn't off his list of VP candidates. Not the same as saying he's on it, but he is a politician after all.

Posted by Jack Croluque1720 2008-06-13 16:00|| 2008-06-13 16:00|| Front Page Top

#11 McCain's only positive attribute in my book is that he's not Hillary and he's not Obama.

Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-06-13 16:15|| 2008-06-13 16:15|| Front Page Top

#12 And that would, by itself, be enough for me, SB 9312. But I do like his courage on Iraq.

Posted by Bobby 2008-06-13 16:24|| 2008-06-13 16:24|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree wiht Anynmoose and others. Im lifetime NRA and I ahve been very po'd by thier compromises. RMGO (ROcky Mountain Gun Owners), SAF (Second Amendment Foundation) are worthy organizations. And there there is the REAL no-compromise gun rights organizatiohn - the GOA Gun Owners of America. (GOA is solid other than its stupid flirtations with Ron Paul due to a few nutobs at HQ)

Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-13 20:42|| 2008-06-13 20:42|| Front Page Top

#14 'moose - not sure 'bout that one. I'd think all the big city elitist effeminate libz would be used to noise from the city not to be worried or react to noise. I think it has more to do w/them hating good old boys - unless Freud had it right along when he said that anyone who was afraid or off put by firearms had an underlying sexual disorder.

I've actually found that most chicks that claim to be afraid, against or just not like guns go hog wild their first time on the range under real adult supervision. Take a hippy skeet or trap shooting (don't try to stuff'em in the trap house no matter how tempting) and you'll have a convert w/in an hour.

Posted by Chaviter the Wicked aka Broadhead6 2008-06-13 23:17|| 2008-06-13 23:17|| Front Page Top

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