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2008-05-10 Caribbean-Latin America

Chavez: Venezuela won't tolerate secession in Bolivia

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Posted by Steve White 2008-05-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Ya know what?!? Someday Chavez's alligator mouth is gonna overload his hummingbird ass!

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2008-05-10 01:40|| 2008-05-10 01:40|| Front Page Top

#2 One aspect I seem to see in all this is an ethnonationalism directed against white europeans; hugo is rightly seen as a neomarxist and a bolivarist (whatever that actually means, past the man-on-a-horse thingie), but he also uses and agitates indian resentment against european venezueleans (a fact hidden/unackownledged by his leftist/rightwinger admirers in the West), whom he derides as not "really" venezuelean, as opposed to his supporters from indian ethnic background, and often as pawns of foreign powers. Morales is the same, a self-proclamed champion of the indian identity poilitics, and IIUC, the parts of bolivia that want greater autonomy are both the richest and most productive, and the most europeanized.

I think it is very interesting to see all this unfolds right before our eyes; after having white europeans ejected from africa, ME and Asia, the underlying, subtext message is "it can be done here too", and chavez and morales are representative of this, as is the la raza or the aztlans movements in the USA, or the idea found in at least some of mexico's Elites that the "lost territories" can be taken back by virtue of demographics.

This is a very deep trend, the white, european, western world is in full retreat (both demographically and territorially, having been chased away from its foreign possessions and being in a very clear way under siege in his various homelands) and in full identity crisis mode... all this exploited in the purest ideological legacy of the grand marxist/soviet plan (since 1922) of using non-white nationalisms, including minorities in the USA, to weaken the western civilization.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-10 08:02|| 2008-05-10 08:02|| Front Page Top

#3 the real trials for all the chaos momentum will be adjudicated by; the Supreme law of social systems; RO/RS=CF
Corollary #1
All systems are only as good as their sensory Organs.
A System is no Better than its sensory organs
Corollary #2
To those within a system, outside reality tends to pale and disappear;

In an effort to introduce quantitative methodology into this important area of research a group of dedicated systemologists has paid particular attention to the amount of information that reaches, or fails to reach the relevant systems administrators also classified as Control Units (CU) of any particular system.

The crucial variable they have found is the fraction Ro/Rs where Ro equals the amount of reality which fails to reach the control unit. And Rs equals the total amount of reality presented to the system.

The fraction Ro/Rs varies from 0 (full awareness of outside reality) to unity ( no reality getting through) The result is known naturally enough, as the COEFFICIENT OF FICTION (CF)
Ro/Rs=CF

Positive Feedback (P.F. )obviously competes with reality R for input into the system. The higher the PF the larger the quantity of reality which fails to gain entrance into the system Ro, and thus the higher the resulting CF. In systems employing PF; values of CF in excess of 0.99 have been recorded. Examples include evangelistic religious movements, certain authoritarian government systems and the executive suites of some very large corporations.

Posted by Thraviper Panda2099 2008-05-10 08:07|| 2008-05-10 08:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Interesting analysis anonymous5089 but it misses one big point. The illegals coming into the US might be primarily of Indian heritage but those running the show in Mexico City and exporting their problems are very much of European decent.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-10 17:27|| 2008-05-10 17:27|| Front Page Top

#5 I had a Mexican girlfriend who had been derided in her youth for not being truly Mexican because of her German father, even though her mother had the dark skin and long, dark braids of a native. This isn't new.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-05-10 22:31|| 2008-05-10 22:31|| Front Page Top

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