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2008-04-16 Home Front: Politix
McCain proposes break in gas taxes
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Posted by DarthVader 2008-04-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Lets suppend the war for the summer instead of suppending the gas tax.
Posted by Trudy 2008-04-16 07:47||   2008-04-16 07:47|| Front Page Top

#2 What if the jihadis of various stripes don't suspend the war with us, Trudy dear? What happens to the poor Iraqis in the middle then, the many normal people who only want to live in peace? I don't know about you, but of all the taxes Mr. Wife and I pay, the gas tax is one of the smallest.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-04-16 07:59||   2008-04-16 07:59|| Front Page Top

#3 option of choosing a simpler tax system

Adding yet another layer of alternatives is NOT simpler.
Make every legislator fill out their own taxes, entirely by themselves - then we'd be likely to see true simplification.
Or there's the Democrat version of simplification:
'How much do you make? Send it in.'
Posted by Menhadden Snogum6713 2008-04-16 08:02||   2008-04-16 08:02|| Front Page Top

#4 suppend? suppending? Do the idiot moonbats have their own language?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-04-16 08:15||   2008-04-16 08:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Would this mean more bridges on the Interstates will be falling down, or simply that the government will have less money to bail out people who bought bigger houses than they could afford?
Posted by Darrell 2008-04-16 09:41||   2008-04-16 09:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Good for McCain, popular vote getter, but it will never happen.
Posted by wxjames 2008-04-16 09:45||   2008-04-16 09:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Wordlish: moonbat language used to say two opposite ideas at the same time.

Suppend: wordlish for 'supplement and end'

Trudy: wordlish for 'true dipshit'.
Posted by swksvolFF 2008-04-16 10:45||   2008-04-16 10:45|| Front Page Top

#8 swksvolFF: Wordlish, that's a pretty good neologism. Did you come up with it, or is there a link you can point us at? Sounds like a needed term.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2008-04-16 11:21|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2008-04-16 11:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Oh, and by the way? I'm not fond of this gas tax suspension thing. Gas taxes are consumption taxes, and better to drop capital taxes & income taxes than something that approximates a carbon tax. A temporary suspension strikes me as something that's going to distort the market without really helping anyone except speculators who are sufficiently quick on their feet. The energy market needs less turbulence, not more.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2008-04-16 11:24|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2008-04-16 11:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Mitch it is precisely because its a consumption tax that he'd recommend it, cause it affects 'women, children, poor'(tm) directly. It's stealing the Donk playbook. Everyone sees the pump regularly. They identify with it, not something that indirectly and unfathomably touches their lives. I'm sure the Donk are too distracted with their fratricide to pay attention, till it'll be too late come fall when he demonstrates the elites still don't understand what effects the common American on a daily basis.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-04-16 12:56||   2008-04-16 12:56|| Front Page Top

#11 While I can definitely understand where McCain is coming from, I wholeheartedly disagree with suspending the gas tax. Overall it is a bad idea. And this is coming from someone who drives a 20mpg SUV 50 miles a day. Mitch H is right it will distort the market. Demand will rise and supply will fall causing prices to go up even higher, so when they reinstate the tax you get a double-whammy. Although his idea of suspending adding to the Strategic Reserve may have merit, but that would depend on how much is in the reserve. Ultimately, it comes down to reducing demand by different means, I prefer increased fuel mileage of our autos, of course people may just drive more, who knows. Let me state up front, I think AGW is a crock of shit, but I am all for anything that will get us off the arab-gas-teet. Significant increases in fuel efficiency is absolutely doable and wouldn't cost terribly much. I could say a lot on this but work is calling...
Posted by AllahHateMe 2008-04-16 13:31||   2008-04-16 13:31|| Front Page Top

#12 I too think this is a gimmick. He needs to focus on keeping the Bush tax cuts, reducing non-defense spending and simplifying the tax code. The donks are against all three of these. Nothing could place him in more stark contrast to their idiocy.
Posted by remoteman 2008-04-16 15:01||   2008-04-16 15:01|| Front Page Top

#13 McCain needs to win the election. This is a clever move as it distances him from Bush, shows he cares about every American working person, even the bitter ones in small town Pennsyltucky,, is not a long term commitment or entitlement and requires the donks to pass it and agree with his good idea or fight it and appear mean. It's a campaign tactic and not fiscal or energy policy. And it's a good tactic.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-04-16 15:07||   2008-04-16 15:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Mitch, just came up with it while trying to uncross my eyes from bucket of #1 I read so early in the morning.
Posted by swksvolFF 2008-04-16 15:10||   2008-04-16 15:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Open up about 900 million acres of land currently off limits to drilling of any kind, and you'd see an explosion of US oil and gas production. Combine it with building the 30+ new refineries we need to meet current and projected demands, and most of the problems we have today with gas price fluctuations would disappear. The current "gas crunch" is contrived by those that want to see the US "more like Europe", or who want to lock everything away "for the future". If the future you're shooting for is one of abject misery for 90% of the population, they may hit the mark. Personally, I think it's time to set a season on "environmentalists", and issue hunting licenses.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2008-04-16 16:45|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2008-04-16 16:45|| Front Page Top

#16 Should have added: AlGore is my first choice of target - a bloviated idiot betting on the stupidity of people to make himself rich, while screwing everyone else.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2008-04-16 16:46|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2008-04-16 16:46|| Front Page Top

#17 Hear Hear OP,
and we should be using Government legislation to block the thousands of lawsuits by the Battalions of Soros Lawyers, Commie lawyers, Ted Kennedy Lawyers etc. from blocking our long over due Energy Development Needs.

And if needed for real damages to the environment and or malfeasance use Gubmint to properly regulate the Industry: by using Bonds and FINES that are proportionate to the profits of that industry to keep the business clean and fair for all the citizens.

No more $.005 penalties on $15,000,000,000 profits if rip-off scams by CEOs and other white collar Energy Scams were any part of the deal..

Penalties for the Officers of the Energy Corporations. If Guilty

Revoke the Monster Homes, Trophy Wives, Biz-Jets, Co Loans, all Bonuses and their Golden 'chutes for billions and do hard prison time for [as much time as drug addicts/pushers get].
Posted by RD">RD  2008-04-16 19:16||   2008-04-16 19:16|| Front Page Top

#18 McCain proposes break in gas taxes

Good Politics for his Presidential run but..

Hey why not dump them permanently.
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Posted by RD">RD  2008-04-16 19:19||   2008-04-16 19:19|| Front Page Top

#19 I'd settle for Fred Thompson's 2 tax choice plan.

Current system continues unabated. IN parallele, a new system is flat rate, no deductions other than poverty level baseline. Basically filling out a postcard, how much did you take in, subtract poverty level, send in 15% (or so) of whats left.

Choose whichever you want.

As for Medicare, Socizl Security,e tc - they need to be means tested. There is no reason someone with 100K a year income as a retiree should be subsidized for his or her medication or retirement SSI from MY pocket.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-16 19:48||   2008-04-16 19:48|| Front Page Top

#20 Suppend: wordlish for 'supplement and end'

'Supplant and end'

Trudy: wordlish for 'true dipshit'

Word.
Posted by Pappy 2008-04-16 23:03||   2008-04-16 23:03|| Front Page Top

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