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2008-04-16 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
The cost of green tinkering is in famine and starvation
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-04-16 13:11|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 one car tank of bio petrol needs as much grain as it takes to feed an African for a year,

Flat lie, the ethanol is extracted, and the remaining mash is very high quality animal feed.
Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim  2008-04-16 14:02||   2008-04-16 14:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Actually they extract sugar, but otherwise you are correct.

I am sure biofuels are doing wonders for dental decay in cattle.
Posted by phil_b 2008-04-16 15:38||   2008-04-16 15:38|| Front Page Top

#3 It's not like we or the Brits are using African grain to make biofuels. We're just trying to be more self-sufficient. United Nations food expert Jean Ziegler should go to Africa (Zimbabwe, for instance) and teach them farming so they can be more self-sufficient too. I know, Farmin B. Hard, but the U.N. would surely prefer to "teach a man to fish" than simply give him fish. Right, Jean? Jean? Hello?

"Africa, says Collier, has less commercial agriculture than it did at the end of the age of empire, half a century ago."
That is pathetic.
Posted by Darrell 2008-04-16 15:48||   2008-04-16 15:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Never have I seen a *radical environmental* idea go so wrong so quickly. I didn't even know what ethanol was just 4-5 years ago, and now, we've seen the *effect* of tinkering with the markets to where we're paying more for everything (including meat, which are affected by the ethanol craze).

Enough of the insanity, especially when it won't make a *hill of bean's* worth of difference.
Posted by BA 2008-04-16 16:04||   2008-04-16 16:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Color beats gender. Enviroment beats color.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-04-16 16:14||   2008-04-16 16:14|| Front Page Top

#6 "Actually they extract sugar,"

Funny, I thought the left wanted to decrease human consumption of high fructose corn syrup. But as this all comes from the left, it's not as if it has to make any sense.
Posted by Hector 2008-04-16 16:46||   2008-04-16 16:46|| Front Page Top

#7 Do they use high-fructose corn to make the ethanol? Does it help?

I still can't get around the fact that burning a gallon of ethanol essentially burns the better part of a gallon of diesel, too.

Let's start drilling for the good old petrol under Nor' Dakota, eh?
Posted by Grenter Protector of the Geats4975 2008-04-16 17:10||   2008-04-16 17:10|| Front Page Top

#8 They could distill starving Africans into biofuel and kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Posted by SteveS 2008-04-16 18:02||   2008-04-16 18:02|| Front Page Top

#9 That's the Soylet Green program the green-reds have on schedule for the next round.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-04-16 19:08||   2008-04-16 19:08|| Front Page Top

#10 We've got enough food for ourselves in the West. This is caused by the Arabs and Russians playing us for rubes on the oil market. Let them eat oil, we'll keep the soybeans.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-04-16 22:54||   2008-04-16 22:54|| Front Page Top

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