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2008-03-29 Europe

Berlin hardens 'no' to NATO offer for Georgia and Ukraine

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Posted by mrp 2008-03-29 10:08|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 Remind me again why they want to join NATO. Might as well join the League of Nations.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-03-29 10:39|| 2008-03-29 10:39|| Front Page Top

#2 The Germans are saying they would not spend the life of a Pomeranian grenadier to preserve Ukranian freedom from Russian domination. And, for once, I believe they are telling the truth. And I don't think Americans are willing to spend the life of a Kentucky rifleman for The Ukraine, either. So who's lying to whom?

Nato has served its purpose and served it well. It is now being perverted into an adventurous tool of aggressive international diplomacy that would have been an anathema to those opposed to entry to the League.

Out of Nato, out of the UN.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-03-29 10:57|| 2008-03-29 10:57|| Front Page Top

#3 But the Germans don't want to shoot in Afghanistan either. My guess is the really reason is Russian Natural Gas Exports.

Posted by 3dc 2008-03-29 12:56|| 2008-03-29 12:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Wouldn't want Fat Fritz to be uncomfortable sharing the same table with those he tried to genocide 65 years before. Personally, I think dumping Germany and adding Ukraine would do more to advance freedom and democracy in that part of the world.

Posted by ed 2008-03-29 14:12|| 2008-03-29 14:12|| Front Page Top

#5 Since their falling out with China, Russia just seems shit outta friends.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-03-29 14:13|| 2008-03-29 14:13|| Front Page Top

#6 My question is to ask why they would want to join NATO in the first place? Judging from what I see in Afghanistan, there's a two-tier NATO: one group that fights and another group that rides on the first group's back. I'm thinking that it's time NATO rode quietly off into the sunset because, like the UN, it's a mid-20th Century creation that has outlived its usefulness and been perverted to aims its founders never intended. It certainly carries damned few benefits for the U.S. these days.

Posted by Pancho Elmeck8414 2008-03-29 18:44|| 2008-03-29 18:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Old Europe wasn't willing to lift a finger to help eastern Europe, either. The only people who even tried was the US. The eastern Europeans haven't forgotten that, either.

Both Ukraine and Georgia are scared of Russia, and rightfully so. They know that it is only a matter of time before Russia tries to snatch them up again, and as of now, there is nobody to stop Russia from doing so.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-03-29 19:02|| 2008-03-29 19:02|| Front Page Top

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