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2008-02-24 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Mike 2008-02-24 09:34|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 [YAWN]
Ralph Nader says he is running for president.
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Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2008-02-24 09:57|| 2008-02-24 09:57|| Front Page Top

#2 It was only a matter of time. Ralphie has as big an ego as Bill Clinton.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-02-24 10:20|| 2008-02-24 10:20|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not sure he can pull votes from Obama the way he did from Gore.

But he sure seared Gore's brain and pushed him Green, didn't he?

Posted by lotp 2008-02-24 10:21|| 2008-02-24 10:21|| Front Page Top

#4 Nader didn't pull that many votes from the Gorebot, but it was enough. Nader will also keep sniping at BO from the left so that he can't move as rapidly to the center as he might wish; though I'm not sure BO has enough sense to do that. But Ralphie will prevent BO from being so non-descript that it is difficult to tell the difference between him and McCain. Good news for the trunks.

Now McCain has to neutralize the Huckster.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-02-24 10:32|| 2008-02-24 10:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Wife said "Ha Ha".

I say he will get the "Students for Stassen for Peace" vote of 1968.

Posted by 3dc 2008-02-24 10:41|| 2008-02-24 10:41|| Front Page Top

#6 He will not be announcing this at Tonight's Oscars will he?

Posted by 3dc 2008-02-24 10:46|| 2008-02-24 10:46|| Front Page Top

#7 Well, if Hillary manages to win the D nomination, Nader will certainly be difference maker. And his pull to the left will cement Obama in place pretty well - question is how effectively will the press cover and hide Obama's socialism with Nader there calling him out on it?

Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-24 11:25|| 2008-02-24 11:25|| Front Page Top

#8 It was only a matter of time. Ralphie has as big an ego as Bill Clinton.

And none of the charm.

Posted by Grineque Panda1639 2008-02-24 11:52|| 2008-02-24 11:52|| Front Page Top

#9 "if Billary manages to ~~win~~ steal the D nomination"

Fixed that for ya', OS.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-02-24 11:54|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-02-24 11:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Nader makes it harder for Obama to avoid policies and substance in favor of hope hope hope talk. I knew he'd run if Hillary won but this surprises me a little and I look forward to the circus.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-24 12:37|| 2008-02-24 12:37|| Front Page Top

#11 I am also surprised he'd take a run @ BO; just goes to show I'm still a bit naive in underestimating the egos of America's looney left.

Posted by regular joe 2008-02-24 13:20|| 2008-02-24 13:20|| Front Page Top

#12 If I were advising Obama, I'd recommend he tell the media he'll debate Ralphie only if McCain does so first. Sit back and wait...there from.

Posted by smn 2008-02-24 14:09|| 2008-02-24 14:09|| Front Page Top

#13 The big O's your man, isn't he smn.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-24 14:13|| 2008-02-24 14:13|| Front Page Top

#14 I welcome Ralph he's bound to "cost" the dems something.. money, debate time, and a few votes.

Posted by RD">RD 2008-02-24 15:21|| 2008-02-24 15:21|| Front Page Top

#15 he'll keep O'bama from shifting too much to the center, as every candidate wants to do in the general election campaign

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 15:55|| 2008-02-24 15:55|| Front Page Top

#16 You don't 'get it', do you Frank G?
Obama is not cut from the same mold as 40 of your nation's predecessors! Even those who witnessed the triumphs of such men as Alexander The Great, at the time, didn't think he could 'do it'. Obama is outside the box looking in, and may well be the President who will have to deal with the Mayan, Casey and Nostradamus prophesies of 2012! Obama is a 'Renaissance Man', Utopian goals fired by nationalistic pride and coalescing are is aforethought. Nader is a mosquito buzzing and harassing the juggernaut of a revolutionary new beginning proposed and offered by this shining star, and first since the founding of this nation. And thank God you lived long enough to see it. Millions of others died with just the faith and an unfulfilled hopes for just such an event!

Posted by smn 2008-02-24 17:25|| 2008-02-24 17:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Glad you've found your Savior, smn. For my part, I already have one.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-24 17:27|| 2008-02-24 17:27|| Front Page Top

#18 "my" nations' predecessors? Apparently you aren't American?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 17:31|| 2008-02-24 17:31|| Front Page Top

#19 by the way, tinfoil becomes you

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 17:33|| 2008-02-24 17:33|| Front Page Top

#20 smn posts via NYC, but has hinted in previous comments that he's not American.

I do hope smn isn't counting on Obama to protect Israel, by the way. The evidence is pretty clear that the big O is rather more sympathetic to Damascus than to Tel Aviv.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-24 17:33|| 2008-02-24 17:33|| Front Page Top

#21 Not worried about Israel Lotp, Obama has sworn 'on the Bible' that his inspiration and faith is based on Christianity, and if God cherishes his Children of Israel to persist, then thats good for Obama too!
Frank G 'tinfoiling' me tends to hurt; he knows how intelligent I am, a deep thinker, but malleable; and he once became upset some years back, when I offered to indicate just how many degrees I have, or my IQ!
Nevertheless, the '"my" nations' predecessors?' I referred to were the WASP Execs that brought this nation forward, four of which I hold in great esteem, namely: George Washington, the 'Father Of The Country', Abraham Lincoln, the first 'black President', Roosevelt (and his New Deal), and JFK! Nader registers just about where the 'surprise meter' puts him!

Posted by smn 2008-02-24 18:31|| 2008-02-24 18:31|| Front Page Top

#22 Frank G 'tinfoiling' me tends to hurt; he knows how intelligent I am, a deep thinker, but malleable; and he once became upset some years back, when I offered to indicate just how many degrees I have, or my IQ!

Uh huh...that scarred me so deeply I overcame it with a JD on the rocks....when was this?? I have a BS/CE License, and nearly MS education, and you know what that means as far as my opinion's standing? SQUAT

measure your opinion on it's worth, don't pull credentials here or you'll leave with (even) less self-esteem. The fact I don't remember it should be a factor in your self-worth. Post it and I'll evaluate it on it's own worth, don't pull that crap here,
Sincerely
Frank G

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 18:41|| 2008-02-24 18:41|| Front Page Top

#23 FREEREPUBLIC > NADER candidacy > OBAMA SUPPORTED THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-02-24 18:42|| 2008-02-24 18:42|| Front Page Top

#24 I have NO CLUE who/what you are, it's your opinions I tend to take exception to, as it should be

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 18:43|| 2008-02-24 18:43|| Front Page Top

#25 Frank G, That JD you drink...I use as a tonic to stimulate my scalp! OK?!!

Posted by smn 2008-02-24 18:47|| 2008-02-24 18:47|| Front Page Top

#26 hokay

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-24 18:51|| 2008-02-24 18:51|| Front Page Top

#27 Obama is a f**king socialist. Plain and simple. Other than missing tons of votes in Illinois, and DC, he has done nothing of substance, at least nothing notable other than managing to "inspire" (fool) people while revealing little to no substance.

And its surprising how people fool themselves about him. Self-generated ignorance is an incredible toxin, and the Obama backers are good examples of this. Chauncy the gardener comes to mind - his ignorance knows no bounds, and his supporters self delusions are similarly unbounded.

Name *one* real, worthy, accomplishment of his, and the policy that resulted.

Hell, even Nader has things he can point to.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-24 19:02|| 2008-02-24 19:02|| Front Page Top

#28 Obama is the same as an Unnamed Democrat. The Dems finally found a candidate with no record to run on and it's doing well for them.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-24 19:16|| 2008-02-24 19:16|| Front Page Top

#29 Name *one* real, worthy, accomplishment of his, and the policy that resulted.

muBarack has made me feel, you know, like totally at one with his dream for us all to come together and like I want to be one with everybody in our country and to like purge it of the negative waves. And now I feel so good thanks to his positive waves. It's like a great feeling. Please pass the Kool-aid, dude.

Posted by The Hon. Leo Ryan 2008-02-24 19:30|| 2008-02-24 19:30|| Front Page Top

#30 Think about conservatives you know and famous ones. A good proportion, perhaps even a majority of conservatives are converts. Even Ronald Reagan.

Then think about Barak Obama, Hillary, and most of the liberals/socialists and unreformed old leftist revolutionaries like Medea Benjamin, both the famous ones, and ones you personally know - a vast majority of them have been the same life long, starting out as student protesters and agitators, etc. And they do not fundamentally change.

Keeping that in mind, consider this:

"To hold the same views at forty as we held at twenty is to have been stupefied for a score of years, and take rank, not as a prophet, but as an unteachable brat, well birched and none the wiser."

-- Robert Louis Stevenson

Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-24 21:00|| 2008-02-24 21:00|| Front Page Top

#31 Nostradamus, the Mayans and Casey predictions? We're not seriously basing anything on that kind of thing, I hope!

I haven't any degrees, I'm afraid, but I have been privileged to sit at the feet of the Rantburg professoriate. And to have a few other interesting conversations, here and there. I've never had a proper IQ test either, although my mother (who has an accidental PhD in psychology with expertise in child development) appeared content with her private evaluations. What are your degrees in, smn? IQ test results are anyway +/- 10 points of the result, which at the extremes can move one over a standard deviation, with dramatic results... or not.

Senator Obama sounds like a U. of Chicago undergrad -- lots and lots of esoteric theory, but... I presume he knows an awful lot about the tiny corner of the subject he lectures on at the U of C law school. An awful lot of his friends are so anti-Israel as to be antisemitic. Mr. Nader, on the other hand, is a straightforward reactionary bigot with pretentions. Charmless, as Grineque Panda1639 says.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-02-24 22:32|| 2008-02-24 22:32|| Front Page Top

#32 Frank G, OldSpook...what do we present ourselves with: "...Cry Havoc, Let slip the Dogs of War..."?? The gnashing of the teeth, the bathing in ashes? LOOK, SEE, the 'Red Sea is splitting' yet you don't believe? Believe!

Posted by smn 2008-02-24 23:52|| 2008-02-24 23:52|| Front Page Top

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