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2007-09-16 Iraq

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Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-16 10:33|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 What in heaven's name has happened to the Telegraph? It used to be a semi-respectable paper. Of late it reads more like the Weekly World News.

Posted by RWV 2007-09-16 12:32|| 2007-09-16 12:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Previously, accusations that Mr Bush was set on war with Iran have come almost entirely from his critics. Many senior operatives within the CIA are highly critical of Mr Bush's handling of the Iraq war, though they themselves are considered ineffective and unreliable by hardliners close to Mr Cheney.

Critical, ineffective and unreliable? The humiliation!

Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-16 14:18|| 2007-09-16 14:18|| Front Page Top

#3 RWV, the Tories have always condescended to Americans. Check the Telegraph's coverage of UK officers' snide comments about US tactics in Iraq vs. their 'softly softly' policy in Basra, from a couple years ago.

Posted by lotp 2007-09-16 17:18|| 2007-09-16 17:18|| Front Page Top

#4 When did the Telegraph become like the New York Times?

Posted by JohnQC 2007-09-16 18:28|| 2007-09-16 18:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Now it has emerged that Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, who has been pushing for a diplomatic solution, is prepared to settle her differences with Vice-President Dick Cheney and sanction military action.

Condescension combined with ignorance. These are not British cabinet ministers elected to Parliament and representative a Parliamentary factions. These are appointed officials serving at the pleasure of the President. I am certain President Bush respects and admires Rice but it is his decision - not hers and not the Vice President's - whether the United States will go to war.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-16 19:01|| 2007-09-16 19:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Iff I'm reading Dubya intentions correctly he desires PERMANENT PREVENTION, not timely temporary delays, via Iran's acquisition-dev of nukes.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-16 21:53|| 2007-09-16 21:53|| Front Page Top

#7 it is his decision - not hers and not the Vice President's - whether the United States will go to war.

True enough. But in a time when the CIA openly sabotages the sitting president, when the Dems call an honorable man like David Petraeus a betrayer, what is official and what is workable may be two different matters. Unfortunately.

Posted by lotp 2007-09-16 22:00|| 2007-09-16 22:00|| Front Page Top

#8 I saw an AP article in my local paper today referring to an informal survey around the country: both pro- and anti-war, Republicans and Democrats, believe we will remain in Iraq well beyond the start of the next presidency. The numbers quoted ranged from three to ten years. The article went on to say that "scientific surveys" put the majority of the population against the war. But, that doesn't really matter if both sides of the argument believe we won't pull out precipitously regardless.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-16 22:31|| 2007-09-16 22:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Actually, it's a good plan. The immediate problem is Iran is meddling in Iraq without cost to them. They have to be shown there is a cost and it really doesn't matter if the right or wrong RG bases and weapons factories are bombed.

The Iranians are almost certain to escalate and try and block oil shipments. The rest of the world will panic at the propect of oil shipments stopping and come on board quickly for military action to keep the Gulf and Hormuz open. Except Russia of course, who will be the big winner if oil shipments are cut off.

Posted by phil_b 2007-09-16 23:44|| 2007-09-16 23:44|| Front Page Top

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