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2007-05-26 Home Front: Politix
Women in the War Part Deux
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Posted by Chuck Simmins 2007-05-26 14:33|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [582 views ]  Top

#1 Go, Chuck, go! This woman agrees with you 100%.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-26 16:01||   2007-05-26 16:01|| Front Page Top

#2 I say a woman with combat (including weapons) training is a major deterrent to female beatings.

Posted by Captain America 2007-05-26 17:22||   2007-05-26 17:22|| Front Page Top

#3 This is a cart before the horse argument. While it is true that only a tiny fraction of people are true warriors, whose natural abilities put them so far ahead of everyone else that it would be no contest in individual battle, the reality is that no army could exist if it had to rely on such people--they are just too few. The vast majority in any military aren't that good.

Even in elite units, a large portion of the personnel are able, but are not what you could call true warriors of this kind. They just don't have, and cannot be trained to have, that warrior genius.

Now that being said, this means that the military is reliant on non-warriors to fill its ranks. And this is where the problem with females in combat lies. While the vast majority of both sexes are un-exercised blobs, the physical conditioning curve for males and females are very different.

As a rule, males can rapidly become physically fit, because their metabolism and hormones are designed for just this. However females have a design that makes them more able to have children. A physique for maximum fertility, not combat.

This is noted even in childhood, where parents are recommended to feed their boys more vegetables and fruits, and their girls more meat and potatoes, to help balance out their diets.

In addition, male recruits have a lifetime of social conditioning leading towards aggression and military training and leadership, that females are rarely raised with.

This means that their effective training cycles are radically different. Unfortunately, there is a refusal to accept that any difference exists, which either means forcing females to train to male standards, or vice versa.

On top of everything else, males are equipped with an instinctual reaction when they perceive that females are in a risk situation. In some cases this reaction is profound and even disabling.

From personal experience I have seen a highly decorated combat master sergeant pale and trembling from seeing a female at risk and afraid. His leadership effectiveness suddenly dropped to near zero, something that cannot be tolerated in combat.

So in the final analysis, it is a numbers game. There just aren't enough females out there who can eventually function in combat standards, and attempting to insert them into combat anyway will neutralize a portion of male soldiers.

This will get people, male and female, killed.

It is unfortunate for those women who are true warriors.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-05-26 20:19||   2007-05-26 20:19|| Front Page Top

#4 What's the old saying? "Worse than a bag of Wildcats."
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-05-26 22:36||   2007-05-26 22:36|| Front Page Top

#5 You're living in a superficial world. Particularly with counter insurgency, where the enemy can and are conceivably anywhere, you can't possible tuck the "gals" into office jobs
Posted by Captain America 2007-05-26 23:28||   2007-05-26 23:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Agreed wholly. As a second degree black belt in martial arts, as one who is very knowledgeable in personal defense, i know women who fight just as well as men. If anything, women typically are actually, when TRAINED PROPERLY, slightly more suited towards fighting in the types of situations occuring in iraq, the smash-and-grab violence, where it's a very fast reaction required because, WITH PROPER TRAINING, something very crucial, they can react more smoothly (that's not a pun). I know firsthand women who have fought hand-to-hand in situations, usually frantic and uncontrolled ones, and the difference is noticeable. Some women with training will win and some lose. None without ever win, not that i've known.
Posted by dfp 2007-05-26 23:46||   2007-05-26 23:46|| Front Page Top

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