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2007-05-19 Home Front: Politix
Bush Acknowledges Doubts About Immigration Bill
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Posted by Bobby 2007-05-19 18:12|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Does it mean we can expect doubts about two state solution to "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict soon?
Posted by gromgoru 2007-05-19 18:48||   2007-05-19 18:48|| Front Page Top

#2 First, I don't care if they sextuple the number of Border Patrol agents; since the USG has neutered them by conclusively showing them they will not be supported in enforcing the law, they're not going to do so.

Second, he wants to solve this "without animosity and without amnesty." Well, there damned well should be some animosity. The illegals have treated our sovereignty and our laws with contempt, placed a great economic burden on our society, and committed crimes in disproportionate amounts to their numbers. What's more, a sovereign government, Mexico, has deliberately aided and abetted its populace in breaking our laws in a way the same government rejects with deadly force on its southern border.
Animosity? Oh yeah!

Unfortunately for America, there WILL be amnesty. The government as currently constituted doesn't have the balls to stop these criminals from crossing our borders, and anyone who thinks they do simply needs to look at the results of the Simpson-Mazzoli bill of 1986. That too was supposed to be amnesty with enforcement. We got the amnesty; we're still waiting for the enforcement. Don't hold your breath.

There is a simple solution to this problem: make it a law that anyone hiring or providing benefits to illegal immigrants faces a $1000 fine per person per day and ten years in jail, enforceable six months from today. Then stand back from the borders; you'd get crushed by all the people streaming out. Unfortunately for Americans, that's too simple, and too straightforward for the coalition of business interests and Dem race panderers that have led us to this problem in the first place. Bastards.
Posted by Graiting Pelosi5237 2007-05-19 19:21||   2007-05-19 19:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Bill West, posting on the Counterterrorism Blog, doesn't have any doubts at all. This so-called Immigration Reform will be a National Security Nightmare.
Posted by doc 2007-05-19 19:39||   2007-05-19 19:39|| Front Page Top

#4 "It will help us resolve the status of millions of illegal immigrants who are here already, without animosity and without amnesty," said Bush

It might resolve it, but just not in our favor. Fuck these self-serving assholes.

From doc's link:
CIS [Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services] has indicated it would need to bring in private contractor personnel to help deal with the monumental workload increase from reform legislation. Such contractors will invariably be quickly hired, poorly trained, probably low-bid, barely vetted and far more subject to bribery and corruption than permanent Government employees.

Not that bribery and corruption will necessarily be that necessary. In short order, the system will be overwhelmed. Whatever minimal fraud detection and prevention safeguards might be erected won’t last long in the face of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of applications and petitions to be adjudicated. What that means is the information provided on those applications and petitions, and whatever supporting documents they may have (if any), will essentially be taken at face value. Whatever the applicant alien tells the adjudicator will essentially be taken at face value. There will be little time or process available to verify anything, perhaps beyond running the applicant’s name through a standard battery of computer databases (and, even that may become so time consuming some will slip through the cracks).
The more I learn about this the less happy I am. This is a sellout of the American public on a massive scale. Washington D.C. is betraying its electorate wholesale.



Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-05-19 20:29||   2007-05-19 20:29|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd rather "resolve the status of millions of illegal immigrants aliens who are here already snuck into this country illegally to steal jobs and suck off the American taxpayer, without animosity and without amnesty."

Americans will do the jobs people claim they won't do - if the illegals aren't here to work illegally for less money.

And if you can't find enough Americans to harvest crops (and maybe you can't, I don't know), legally bring in registered, accounted-for crews of Mexicans or whoever for specific jobs (and yes, crews can be moved from one job to another as the season progresses north) and then send them back home at the end of the harvest season.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2007-05-19 21:17|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2007-05-19 21:17|| Front Page Top

#6 Who'd thought the day would come when the US government was as credible as the N.Korean government? Heh.

Trunk or Donk, if their mouths are moving they're lying.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-05-19 22:11||   2007-05-19 22:11|| Front Page Top

#7 If he doesn't understand the concept of a border - how the hell does he think he can wage a war?
Posted by 3dc 2007-05-19 22:25||   2007-05-19 22:25|| Front Page Top

#8 Bush used his weekly radio address to open what is likely to be an intense effort to persuade Americans to support a comprehensive approach to long-simmering U.S. immigration problems.

Harriet Myers.
Posted by Pappy 2007-05-19 22:28||   2007-05-19 22:28|| Front Page Top

#9 Screw Calderon. Find his relatives and JAIL THEM. Tell Felipe if he wants them, come get them.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-05-19 23:05||   2007-05-19 23:05|| Front Page Top

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