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2006-12-11 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-12-11 07:54|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Lesson: In the eyes of our enemies, Americas decency and honor, our rules of engagement even at war, is our weakness. When at war with terrorists, we can not afford to assume that anyone who appears to be a threat is anything less than a fatal threat. We must be willing to act before being fired upon again and again.

There is an important corollary to this lesson; viz, when the enemy responds to revised rules of engagement by sending in women and children for the slaughter we have to reject any responsibility for the consequences of that decision. The rules of war make it clear that over and over again it is our adversaries who make illegal and immoral sacrifice of their dependents. Yet to our press it is always we who are to blame. It is this last factor which is losing the Long War for us despite our strength. It is only when we demand moral clarity that we will succeed. Otherwise we risk losing civilization for want of rebutting what should be considered as nothing more than a lame debating point.

Posted by Excalibur 2006-12-11 09:55|| 2006-12-11 09:55|| Front Page Top

#2 "What must change to survive such an enemy? The fastest way to win any fight is to take the enemy out of the fight. The best way to do this is to take the fight out of the enemy, immediately, unconditionally and forever.

We have most likely missed our opportunity.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-12-11 12:28|| 2006-12-11 12:28|| Front Page Top

#3 A movie or two showing the jihadists using these tactics would go a long way. Show the war in Chechnya, portray the Chechnyans as heros if you must to get it made, but show how they hang wounded Russians in front of machine gun nests and hide behind their women and children to make sure the point gets through. Then have a western journalist portray them as heros and the Russians as savages for the times they respond with overkill.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-12-11 17:50|| 2006-12-11 17:50|| Front Page Top

#4 There's a population segment that is so deranged, so clueless, so terminally nihilist, they'd never get it.

How large is this segment?

Too large. Waay too large.

Posted by .com 2006-12-11 17:57|| 2006-12-11 17:57|| Front Page Top

#5 What is needed first is to take media out of fight. I suggest any info flow out of combat zone be controlled by combatant armies. refusal to comply results in instant death. For instance, all Iraq is a combat zone . If Al-Jiz refuses orders and proceeds in, bring batlle tanks up and proceed with concentrated fire until ibjective disappears. Then, take the fight to the enemy properly. Only statement would be "2300 enemy fighters and supporters were eliminated today in Ramadi".

Posted by SpecOp35 2006-12-11 18:40|| 2006-12-11 18:40|| Front Page Top

#6 In traditional ME warfare, however imperfectly women and children were protected or to be kept as "war prizes/booty". SALADIN, etal Muslim conquerers punished or executed any Islamic warrior or sub-leader whom wilfully slaughtered women and children without cause-merit, or ditto whom wilfully placed them in harm's way. BY SALADIN'S, etal. standards, FOR MUSLIM MEN TO WILFULLY AND COMMONLY SEND IN WOMEN AND CHILDREN UNTO HARM OR DEATH BEFORE THEMSELVES IS AN INSULT TO GOD WORTHY OF BEHEADING OR OTHER IMMEDIATE EXECUTION. The only military or martial merit would be to save Warriors for a great/decisive battle, but even for the latter would be "pushing it", or viewed as "extremist", as such was never or rarely needed before. Iff any "great/decisive battle" ultimately proved victorious for the Muslim side, returning warriors would have no wives + children to continue their lineage, i.e. to continue Society, save those taken from the Infidels. TO WILFULLY PUT WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN HARMS WAY = DEATH OFTEN/ROUTINELY > PROOF THAT WOT = WAR TO THE DEATH, AND NOT MERELY PC = POLITIX " AS USUAL". WOULD BE AKIN TO JAPAN'S WW2's "GYOKUSAI?" COMBAT TACTIC, i.e. "BREAKING THE JEWEL", where every Japanese soldier = organz Unit(s), including Walking Wounded andor Combat Disabled, WOULD WILFULLY DESTROY THEMSELVES IN HUMAN WAVE, "BANZAI/KAMIKAZE" ATTACKS, TO THE LAST MAN, AND NO MORE RETREATS OR FALL-BACK. NO ONE COMES BACK ALIVE OR AT ALL, NOT EVEN THE GENERALS OR COLONELS OR REAR ECHELONS. The minutae handful whom manage to survive are those whom the Amer soldiers either captured alive [usu. wounded?], had failed to die or kill themselves, or the Amers chose not to kill off-hand in the heat of battle.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-12-11 23:24|| 2006-12-11 23:24|| Front Page Top

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