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2006-11-22 -Short Attention Span Theater-

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Posted by .com 2006-11-22 01:33|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Whoa - 92???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-11-22 02:21|| 2006-11-22 02:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Granny could shoot pretty good at age 92. Was she a smoker? Did she eat trans fats? Inquiring minds want to know....

Posted by Phineter Thraviger 2006-11-22 02:34|| 2006-11-22 02:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Whoa - 92???

Good shot. That's how you get to 92 in Atlanta, lol.

Posted by .com 2006-11-22 02:47|| 2006-11-22 02:47|| Front Page Top

#4 She had the right idea, but used the wrong caliber. Being narcos, they probably just came up and started battering the door unannounced. That's why homeowners need a nice pump 12 gauge where they can grab it right quick. Load with 00, go for head shots. I guarantee whoever is coming in will be going back out pronto.

Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-22 03:02|| 2006-11-22 03:02|| Front Page Top

#5 No wonder we won WWII. We need more like her now.

Posted by gorb 2006-11-22 03:23|| 2006-11-22 03:23|| Front Page Top

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-22 03:32|| 2006-11-22 03:32|| Front Page Top

#7 If these Narcotics officers got the wrong house, or faulty intel, they are in serious trouble. Hell, even if they did get the right house they are still in serious trouble if they just started banging the door down. Shooting a 92 year-old woman who probably thought she was enacting self-defense is not the way to keep your job.

Posted by Charles 2006-11-22 03:47|| 2006-11-22 03:47|| Front Page Top

#8 After a long and exciting life, grandma went out with an BANG!

Posted by Shaish Spaviting2771 2006-11-22 04:07|| 2006-11-22 04:07|| Front Page Top

#9 More police departments are seriously reviewing their door-smash policies, because cops are so overdoing it that even the general public is starting to get pissed.

Even minor warrants on non-violent offenders are getting door-smash approvals, more out of convenience, than any real need.

One I heard about locally was based on a bench warrant for a few outstanding traffic tickets. The policeman said that the suspect was refusing to answer the door. The suspect was on vacation. After the cop smashed the door, he left, which resulted in the suspects apartment being looted.

When he called the police to report the burglary, they then arrested him. Then they discovered that he was a different guy with the same name as the traffic ticket scofflaw.

Last but not least, that was the second time they had smashed his door. The first time was on a drug raid, which had the wrong apartment number.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-22 08:04|| 2006-11-22 08:04|| Front Page Top

#10 In Mississippi you get the death penalty if you kill a narc busting into your house in the middle of the night, even if it's the wrong house. At least/especially if the dead cop is politically connected.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-11-22 08:36|| 2006-11-22 08:36|| Front Page Top

#11 If these Narcotics officers got the wrong house, or faulty intel, they are in serious trouble.

Nope! This crap happens more than people realize, and it is usually kept rather quite. Every year a lot of people get gunned down by LE doing no-knock extreme entries at the wrong place.

LE can be the Feds, State and Local police. And they have been increasing the number of extreme entries over the years. It is a practice that needs to be curtailed, 90% of the time it is not necessary.

LE = Law Enforcement

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-22 08:46|| 2006-11-22 08:46|| Front Page Top

#12 This used to be a free country, where peacable 92 year old women could live securely in their homes without the government bashing the door down. God bless, granny, and God speed.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-11-22 09:24|| 2006-11-22 09:24|| Front Page Top

#13 Rantburgers,
Too many ifs, ands or buts in this this story. If the narcs didn't announce, it was a rip gone bad. As for "never any drugs at the house", someone had to swear to the warrant. Also 00 with a 12 guage inside a building, not a good idea. There's a reason for it, they still have killing power after going through walls. No telling if some innocent is on the other side.

Posted by Xenophon 2006-11-22 10:54|| 2006-11-22 10:54|| Front Page Top

#14 ...someone had to swear to the warrant.

GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out. Cops routinely use Confidential Informants, and other unsavory types as the basis for swearing out a warrant. And mistakes happen all the time.

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-22 11:38|| 2006-11-22 11:38|| Front Page Top

#15

TROLL REMOVED

Posted by Hibjobol_abjub 2006-11-22 12:21|| 2006-11-22 12:21|| Front Page Top

#16

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-22 12:29|| 2006-11-22 12:29|| Front Page Top

#17 Really. You'd almost think it was the Palestinian cops dealing with "collaborators"...

Posted by tu3031 2006-11-22 12:30|| 2006-11-22 12:30|| Front Page Top

#18 One I heard about locally was based on a bench warrant for a few outstanding traffic tickets. The policeman said that the suspect was refusing to answer the door. The suspect was on vacation. After the cop smashed the door, he left, which resulted in the suspects apartment being looted.

Gawd amighty 'Moose! Where was that?

Posted by Shipman 2006-11-22 12:48|| 2006-11-22 12:48|| Front Page Top

#19 I was a cop for ten years. I'm about as pro-law enforcement as you can get. I know what these guys face. Having said that, my opinion is tempered by the fact that many cops have no business wearing a badge.

Case in point: While I was out of town on a Network project in 2004, My wife called me in hysterics. The police had shown up at 2:00 am looking for a person who my wife only KNEW. She said she hadn't seen her in months. The police ordered her to step outside. She refused, being clothed only in her bathrobe, and it being an unlawful and unreasonable order with no legal basis. They GRABBED her arm and forcibly pulled her out of her own house, causing swelling and bruising on her arm.

We filed a complaint with the Internal Affiars division of the Police Dept. It went nowhere. They sent us a nice cute letter telling us that the officers had acted in "good faith" and believed my wife might be a hostage and her life was in danger. Bullshit. These types of abuses are becoming all too common. There's a little thing called the Constitution of the United States. Those who abuse it should go to jail, badge or no badge.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-11-22 14:50|| 2006-11-22 14:50|| Front Page Top

#20 Was granny sittin there with the gun, or did they knock and announce themselves before she drew iron ?

Posted by wxjames 2006-11-22 16:27|| 2006-11-22 16:27|| Front Page Top

#21 If you read any of the NRA magazines section The Armed Citizen, you'll find that yes, alot of elderly do keep their guns by them wherever they are in their homes because of home invasions. Quite a few perps get a nasty shock when grandma or grandpa pulls out a gun when they come busting through the door.

But I agree, something about this stinks to high heaven. Normally when you see something like this, the police like to point out how many pounds of drugs they found and how many weapons were in the house. Instead there's nothing, which leads me to suspect either they had the wrong place or wrong intel and this old woman died for no reason.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2006-11-22 16:54|| 2006-11-22 16:54|| Front Page Top

#22 as per #2's questions Instapundit had a link that had her pic. My guess is yes. Only due to her tender age did she need a gun. In her younger days it was more likely weapons?, who needs em!

Posted by bruce 2006-11-22 20:27|| 2006-11-22 20:27|| Front Page Top

#23 ---Atlanta TV stations have lots of video & articles posted about this incident, which (so far) stinks to high heaven.
---The woman's niece alleged that her dead aunt was the homeowner and also had a handgun permit. If true, before they showed up the police could certainly have determined those highly significant facts. For the sake of the reputation of the Atlanta police dept., those two allegations had better turn out to be untrue.
---From Channel 11:

This was supposed to be the routine serving of a search warrant, but things went very wrong, very fast.

The serving of a "no-knock" warrant is about as routine as an execution by firing squad, especially if you're on the receiving end. Anyone with enough muscle and the right tools can smash a hole into your house and claim they're a police officer. "Routine"?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-22 20:29|| 2006-11-22 20:29|| Front Page Top

#24 this whole story stinks. Instapundit has a lot on this...they had to walk past a wheelchair-ramp to the front door to get there. She shot them in teh front yard? Or on entry? Stories among the cops keep changing....

What would you do if someone started kicking in your front door? I'd shoot first and, if alive later, answer questions. No-knocks are for dangerous situations and cowboy cops

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-11-22 22:30|| 2006-11-22 22:30|| Front Page Top

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