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2006-09-25 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Super Hose 2006-09-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Nothing new here. These guys were plying their trade when I first got into the business in the 70's. The only difference is they are a little more sophisticated now. Of course, they should remember that trojan horses in the secret technology the Russians stold were an integral part of the collapse of the Soviet Union. When it comes to spies, caveat emptor.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-25 00:20|| 2006-09-25 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 The funny part is that the Chinese then try to pass off all these stolen secrets as their own inventions. Then, they get incredibly angry if anyone dares to point out the fact that China doesn't create anything, but only has the power to copy. They take simultaneous pride in the fact that they are so effective at stealing and inventing. Not cognitive dissonance, but maybe cognitive resonance?

Posted by gromky 2006-09-25 00:44|| 2006-09-25 00:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Cognitive kakaphony?

Posted by twobyfour 2006-09-25 02:24|| 2006-09-25 02:24|| Front Page Top

#4 The situation outrages U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), who successfully fought recent plans by the State Department to use Chinese-built computers for classified material. He says too little attention is paid to China's "aggressive spying program against the U.S." The legal deterrents to espionage are weak, says Wolf, who chairs a subcommittee overseeing security and technology. "In the Cold War people went to jail for a long time" for spying, he says, but today's "negligible penalties" are more appropriate to low-level embezzlement than military spying. Park was unusual in receiving a 32-month prison term and a deportation order; in contrast, Ting-Ih Hsu and Hai Lin Nee were each sentenced to three years of probation.

This needs to change, pronto. We also need to prohibit all Chinese student visas for any engineering, chemistry and physics courses. Same goes for HB-1 work visas in sensitive industries. They can wait tables all they want but no dice for any high technology applications. Preferably, NO CHINESE VISAS AT ALL, TOURIST OR STUDENT.

In the long run, America needs to bite the bullet and simply cut off all ties with China. The Politburo would implode within less than two years and the economic hit we might take would be negligible by comparison. Yes, prices would rise, but we would re-establish a substantial portion of our domestic manufacturing base which is of major economic and strategic importance anyway.

The current predatory economic policy and future military aggression that China promises will make the Middle East terrorists look like a bunch of Boy Scouts. One glance at China's role in exacerbating the Iranian nuclear weapons crisis should be enough to convince anyone.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 04:24|| 2006-09-25 04:24|| Front Page Top

#5 Zenster, that is remarkably clear and innovative thinking. Thank you.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-25 09:46|| 2006-09-25 09:46|| Front Page Top

#6 We also need to prohibit all Chinese student visas for any engineering, chemistry and physics courses.

Who would teach the undergrads?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-25 09:53|| 2006-09-25 09:53|| Front Page Top

#7 I think one of the "big secrets" they're not telling anyone is that the foreign-born professors aren't doing that great a job at teaching the undergraduates here of domestic or foreign origin.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-09-25 13:11|| 2006-09-25 13:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Zenster, that is remarkably clear and innovative thinking. Thank you.

I'll assume you aren't being sarcastic, RWV. It's nothing I haven't said before, perhaps a tiny bit more concise. You're welcome.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 14:34|| 2006-09-25 14:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Who would teach the undergrads?

That would be the Indian grad students, but you need to grasp the sing-song style of English they use.

Posted by Snusing Shater6913 2006-09-25 16:00|| 2006-09-25 16:00|| Front Page Top

#10 I find I prefer Indian-accented English to Chinese-accented English.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-09-25 16:33|| 2006-09-25 16:33|| Front Page Top

#11 I took me a long time to figure out what the rero wector was.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-25 16:38|| 2006-09-25 16:38|| Front Page Top

#12 No sarcasm Zenster. It was just that I had never considered the impacts of cutting off Chinese university students.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-25 21:21|| 2006-09-25 21:21|| Front Page Top

#13 To add my two bits to the foreign instructor melee, the worst instructor I ever had the misfortune to experience was a visiting professor from Hong Kong. His English was execrable. The course was "tittical mekanik and Haemadienamik" taught during a summer session at Indiana University. Not only could no one understand him, he insisted on using mimeographs of his unpublshed book for a text. The crowning indignity was that he announced on the last day of class that American students were so bad that he would not grade us and would give everyone a C. I hope he never gets another visa.

The best instructor was an Italian doctoral candidate at Michigan State who taught vector calculus. He was the only person I ever met who could create enthusiasm for calculus at 0730.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-25 21:31|| 2006-09-25 21:31|| Front Page Top

#14 My best instructor was a platinum blonde bombshell from the University of Kiev!

I at convention in Finland - yes. CIA man walk into office I using for convention - yes. Say, $1,000,000 if you defect. I say, I say and for my husband? And, he say - ok 2 million for both of you. And I say Plus good jobs? He say OK! I say Ok! But, but... we still do it better in the Motherland - Yes!

To bad breast cancer killed her. She was great!

Posted by 3dc 2006-09-25 22:32|| 2006-09-25 22:32|| Front Page Top

#15 It was just that I had never considered the impacts of cutting off Chinese university students.

RWV, exporting the knowledge and workplace experience is just as bad as allowing the technology to leak. Real-time manufacturing experience in semiconductor fabrication is still almost the only way to obtain such skills. We'd be far better off rekindling America's manufacturing base than letting China continue to hollow it out. I'm glad you enjoyed the thought.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 23:29|| 2006-09-25 23:29|| Front Page Top

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