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2006-05-10 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
The Perils of Engagement
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Posted by ed 2006-05-10 12:48|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The second was to remove the Jupiter missiles installed in Turkey as part of NATO's defenses.

Believe me, we got the better part of the deal. First, the call to let Castro stay was contingent on the Soviets never putting long-range offensive weapons there again - had they done so, we would have sunk his tiny little island. I helped write some of the plans to do so.
Second, the Jupiters were fairly short-ranged, inaccurate, and most importantly, vulenrable missiles (they were mounted on aboveground pads - a sniper could have taken one out). Since the first Polaris patrols in the Med were starting at approximately the same time, we lost nothing.

And keep this in mind as well - almost without exception, most analysts consider the 'Kennedy Model' a lousy way to solve a nuclear crisis. One analyst whom I have spoken with about the '62 crisis has said the only reason it did not explode in Kennedy's face was that Khruschev was more rattled than the White House was - and more importantly, Khruschev knew how far behind in missiles and bombers the USSR really was.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-05-10 14:10||   2006-05-10 14:10|| Front Page Top

#2 In fact Mike K. as you well know, it did "blow up in Kennedy's face" at the Bay of Pigs, it's just not talked about much.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-10 18:50||   2006-05-10 18:50|| Front Page Top

#3 "just not talked about much."

You dare besmirch Camelot?

LOL, Besoeker, so true. The entire Dummycrap mythology machine works overtime airbrushing away all of the zits, cankers, boils, and tumors. Very convenient selective memories.

Ooh! Look over here at this bright shiny thing!

LOL.
Posted by Omomoting Shomock9606 2006-05-10 18:59||   2006-05-10 18:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Uh, yeah. The "Kennedy Model" damn near made me an orphan!

Here's the Parabellum Model. Talk little and use the Big Stick.

You won't hear too much complaining afterwards, I promise.
Posted by Parabellum 2006-05-10 19:40||   2006-05-10 19:40|| Front Page Top

#5 All it got the Cuban army was defeat or failure everywhere + AIDS/HIV, while Cuba itself went from being a regional rising star to a perennnial dark hole in US SATWAR photos like North Korea. COMMIE BLOC > "The land area(s) on maps wid few or no lights compared to surrounding countries is them". Besides darkness, food riots, and work riots, now Cuba ala HAM-GATE is slowly but surely going the way of SOLYENT GREEN-happy North Korea -the People + Army can starve but Fidel, D *** YOU, must have his [priority imported] daily or weekly Black Hams!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-10 23:04||   2006-05-10 23:04|| Front Page Top

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