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2006-04-25 Science & Technology
Boeing Planning To Kick Airbus's Butt Again
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-25 14:37|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Apropos the earlier article, I expect the airlines to load it down with the passengers all standing up and holding onto those little handholds they have in busses and subways.
Posted by Phil 2006-04-25 14:43||   2006-04-25 14:43|| Front Page Top

#2 If the price were right, I'd fly standing.
Posted by Iblis">Iblis  2006-04-25 14:45||   2006-04-25 14:45|| Front Page Top

#3 With that kind of capacity combined with standing passengers, I see no reason not to have enough space for a very comfortable area set aside for Ummm... "club" members.
Posted by Mike N. 2006-04-25 15:13||   2006-04-25 15:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Hmm I coulda sworn the 747 replacement isn't coming out till yellowstone 3 and yellowstone 1 (the 737 replacement) was next on their list.
Posted by Valentine 2006-04-25 15:20||   2006-04-25 15:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Crash one of those 1000 passenger units for any reason and you have a $billion+ lawsuit. I like the innovation of Boeing but I think that these mega-aircrafts are a concept going in the wrong direction. I like to see more flexibility in the nodes with medium sized planes, like the 747 size.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-04-25 15:39||   2006-04-25 15:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Here is a preliminary schematic of the passenger cabin.
Posted by Matt 2006-04-25 15:47||   2006-04-25 15:47|| Front Page Top

#7 One of the key metrics in the flying biz is $$ earned per ass- pax-mile. It will be interesting to see the numbers on this beast, assuming it ever gets built. Fuel costs are driving the show, which explains the interest in more efficent 737s and smaller platforms.
Posted by N guard 2006-04-25 16:27||   2006-04-25 16:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Don't forget the RAM coating. It bypasses the Achilles heel of the A380, namely less fuel efficiency than the 787 in a high fuel cost world. Following the B-2 experience, fuel efficiency inded be very good, but like AP said, one crash can be an airline/airframe manufacturer bankrupting experience. In addition, the outboard passengers are gonna experience Gs during banking and turbulence. Stock up on the airbags.

P.S. bomb load of the B-797 over 300 tons?
Posted by ed 2006-04-25 16:33||   2006-04-25 16:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Stock up on the air sickness bags.
Posted by ed 2006-04-25 16:34||   2006-04-25 16:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Airline liability is strictly limited by international treaty. Otherwise they'd all be out of business by now. So don't worry about billion dollar lawsuits.
Posted by Iblis">Iblis  2006-04-25 16:43||   2006-04-25 16:43|| Front Page Top

#11 If the price were right, I'd fly standing.

No you wouldn't. Unlike metros planes bank, climb and dive. At times at quite high angles when relief or weather leave no alternative. And at times they meet turbulences. Also a lot of unpleasant things including plane disentegrating in flight can happen when the payload is not centered.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-04-25 16:53||   2006-04-25 16:53|| Front Page Top

#12 One of the problems with this form of airframe is designing the pasenger cabin and airframe to withstand the pressurization system and keep the weight down. They have been talking about these things for years and I suspect that it would take Boeing at leat 6 years to first flight.
Posted by Glaque Uletch6961 2006-04-25 17:05||   2006-04-25 17:05|| Front Page Top

#13 JFM: If I were older, younger or infirm that might be a problem. Also, flying more than a couple of hours would suck. But for, say, half price, I'll stand thanks. These aren't stunt planes after all.
Posted by Iblis">Iblis  2006-04-25 17:34||   2006-04-25 17:34|| Front Page Top

#14 I suspect that it would take Boeing at leat 6 years to first flight.

But only one press release to put a lot of Airbus orders on ice. Expecially when fuel efficiency becomes paramount.

FUD
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-25 17:48||   2006-04-25 17:48|| Front Page Top

#15 Yeah! Fly American.
Posted by Glavick Angease1706 2006-04-25 22:03||   2006-04-25 22:03|| Front Page Top

#16 
Posted by 3dc 2006-04-25 23:22||   2006-04-25 23:22|| Front Page Top

#17 where the f are the windows? don't tell me special monitors so you can see outside.

(that idea was tried and quickly nixed after that DC-10 lost an engine, literally, on take-off from Detroit (Chicago?), back in the 70s. would you really wanna see everything?)
Posted by rafael 2006-04-25 23:43||   2006-04-25 23:43|| Front Page Top

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