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2005-12-28 India-Pakistan
"I told the police that I am an honorable father and I slaughtered my dishonored daughter..."
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Posted by Seafarious 2005-12-28 15:14|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This was not about "Honor" but about control. He found he couldn't control what his daughter did so he murdered her. He didn't want to possibly go through the same things again with his other daughters so he murdered them to. An ounce of prevention, dontcha know.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-12-28 15:52||   2005-12-28 15:52|| Front Page Top

#2 The Friday prayers thing was what caught my eye. The imam must've been holy rollering for all he was worth...an' mebbe the son-in-law's brick factory was a bit too successful, mebbe cut into some of the holy man's other ventures. Just maybe.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-12-28 15:57||   2005-12-28 15:57|| Front Page Top

#3 The pakistani "honor and dignity" is intimately tied up with control and power relationships...

The entire country exists because a muslim minority could not live in peace with other people.

They needed to dominate.

The current wave of islamist stems from this.. the defeats inflicted by the British against the Mughal and Ottoman empires.. this created the Deoband madrassa and the muslim brotherhood...

The elites lost their feudal rights. The muslim bureacrats lost their reserved jobs and priviledges...
Posted by john 2005-12-28 16:09||   2005-12-28 16:09|| Front Page Top

#4 A Father's got to do what a Father's got to do.
Posted by Jim Anderson 2005-12-28 16:10||   2005-12-28 16:10|| Front Page Top

#5 "...faces the death sentence if he is convicted for the killings and terrorizing his neighborhood..."
Those Waki Pakis! Terrorizing a neighborhood is a crime, but terrorizing another country is fair enough.
Posted by Darrell 2005-12-28 16:14||   2005-12-28 16:14|| Front Page Top

#6 killed the three girls — Bano, 8, Sumaira, 7, and Humaira, 4...

Its a good thing he's over there or I'd do some "HONOR KILLING" of my own...

Why couldn't Saddahm's paper shredder be used on a guy like this feet first?

"I begged my husband to spare my daughters but he said, 'If you make a noise, I will kill you.'"

Does anyone believe that this man is truly not a human being? In fact dogs and cats are a higher form of life than this piece of putrid manure.


"Let me have Nazir Ahmed's liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti!"

I got "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades" by Spencer, and am reading it now.

So a story like this really sets me off...
Posted by BigEd 2005-12-28 16:15||   2005-12-28 16:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Also, is it too much to hope that down the road, since the Pak govt is cowardly about this, soemone will take the manner into their own hands, and this guy will become instant worm food...
Posted by BigEd 2005-12-28 16:22||   2005-12-28 16:22|| Front Page Top

#8 A Taste of Shari'a

Available in PAL, SECAM & NTSC. Discounts for Senior al Qaeda, Wahhabi Imams, budding muttawa, and other True Believers™. Don't forget to visit our Cutlery and Acid Depts! At Abu Musab Bros, expect nothing but the finest in Shari'a.
Posted by .com 2005-12-28 16:26||   2005-12-28 16:26|| Front Page Top

#9 this family has no honor to be saved. Savages. Kill him now, in the public square, tied and tethered and bled like a pig
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-12-28 16:37||   2005-12-28 16:37|| Front Page Top

#10 The pakistani "honor and dignity" is intimately tied up with control and power relationships...

So then, how likely is it that Pakistan was really "shocked" by this crime?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-28 16:38||   2005-12-28 16:38|| Front Page Top

#11 No, Just kill him and bury him in the skin of a pig.
Posted by Gleang Ebbavique7487 2005-12-28 16:39||   2005-12-28 16:39|| Front Page Top

#12 So then, how likely is it that Pakistan was really "shocked" by this crime?

Nothing shocks pakis. Check out the 4th picture on the first link.
That child's limb was sliced off neatly by Pak army soldiers..

Link 1

Link 2

Posted by john 2005-12-28 16:46||   2005-12-28 16:46|| Front Page Top

#13 A practical solution to "honor" killings is simply to make the punishment as "dishonorable" as possible.

Hear me out. In cultures that are obsessive about "honor", just hanging the bad boy won't dissuade others from doing the same. However, they *do* respond if they are terribly shamed after the fact.

As an comparative example, in Japan there was an epidemic of people committing suicide by throwing themselves from subway platforms in front of speeding trains. The Japanese government stopped it, overnight, by installing mirrors to face the platform. The suicides had to look at themselves first, and this was intolerable in their culture. They just couldn't do it that way anymore.

So, what should be done about this man is to have *women* publicly humiliate, scorn and control him.

Literally, have him stripped down to his breech cloth, shave his beard off, then have women laugh, shout, curse at him, and intermittently flog him as they yell about how inferior he is as a man, how weak he is, what a wimp he is and unfit to be a husband or father. AT LENGTH. On national television. Hopefully, he would curl up in a ball and start crying and hiding his face in shame.

Believe me, it wouldn't be hard to find women to volunteer to do this job.

But do this a few times and not only would every woman killer in the country have a collective case of the hershey-squirts in fear, but it would be the most popular DVD for women in the country.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-12-28 17:43||   2005-12-28 17:43|| Front Page Top

#14 So, what should be done about this man is to have *women* publicly humiliate, scorn and control him.

That would be unislamic.
It suggests that women are equal.

In islam a woman's testimony is only worth half that of a man.
Men don't wear hijab...
etc

Honor killings reinforce the social structure in Pakiland.
They're only a problem now because we kafirs get to read about it thanks to the TV and Internet.
It makes the Pak elite uncomfortable.

Posted by john 2005-12-28 17:49||   2005-12-28 17:49|| Front Page Top

#15 Send Lynndie England and her leash over there maybe?
Posted by Hank 2005-12-28 17:50||   2005-12-28 17:50|| Front Page Top

#16 Moose - *applause*

It would do the job. No matter how much I may disagree with you over the odd point now and then, I would not wish Pervy's job on you to pull this off. Now if you could be the power behind Pervy's throne, from afar, to make something like this happen, and you were very well compensated for it, well now, then we'd be talking, lol.

A most excellent post! Putting Abu Musab Bros. & Shari'a out of business is Job 1 in civilization's death match with Islam. Certainly we can argue about what color the wheel should be, but only after we invent it.
Posted by .com 2005-12-28 17:56||   2005-12-28 17:56|| Front Page Top

#17 "Send Lynndie England and her leash over there maybe?"

A great idea!!! I'm thinking pay-per-view!!!
Posted by Mark E. 2005-12-28 17:56||   2005-12-28 17:56|| Front Page Top

#18 Just eradicate them all. Harsh? Hell yes. But can we tolerate a nation state that tolerates and winks and nods at this in our modern world? It appears that at least half of us if not more are females on this planet. Females whom deserve justice and human rights like the rest of us in the modern world. Cultures, sects and religions that don't program don't get to survive. Welcome to the 21st century.

Insert catchy phrase about taking off and nuking them from space here.
Posted by Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu 2005-12-28 20:04||   2005-12-28 20:04|| Front Page Top

#19 he said he killed Muqadas because she had committed adultery, and his daughters because he didn't want them to do the same when they grew up
what a wickedly stupid foul decaying piece of rancid BS. The flies swarming over the BS have more morals than this low life. Honor?! BS.
The mind set here is just unbelievable.
Posted by Jan 2005-12-28 20:38||   2005-12-28 20:38|| Front Page Top

#20 Islam truely is nothing more than a death cult. This is also why muslims can't be allowed to become more than a small percentage of any country's population.
Posted by Snoth Ulomosh7586 2005-12-28 22:31||   2005-12-28 22:31|| Front Page Top

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