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2005-07-27 Home Front: WoT
No More WoT: It's a "struggle" now - Washington Plays Word Games
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Posted by Chris W. 2005-07-27 11:01|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Weasel words from word weasels.
Posted by .com 2005-07-27 13:34||   2005-07-27 13:34|| Front Page Top

#2 How about G-WIT? Global War on Islamic Terrorism? Says it all, sort of insennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsitive, though. "Global struggle agains violent extremism" sounds like something out of "China Reconstructs" propaganda magazine of the 1960s.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2005-07-27 15:29||   2005-07-27 15:29|| Front Page Top

#3 I dunno, Pie Fight on Terror, Pillow Fight on Terror? Get the Lefties on board...
Posted by tu3031 2005-07-27 15:40||   2005-07-27 15:40|| Front Page Top

#4  He(General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) said the threat instead should be defined as violent extremism, with the recognition that "terror is the method they use.

Let's call it what it is, a war against fundamentalist Islam.

Semantics I know, but important distinctions must be made about who the enemy is. Lest our campaign against "terror" define some friendlies as enemies.

IMHO a war on terrorism is unwinnable, for it is a war on a type of warfare with no indicators of success or plausible end in sight. While a war on fundamentalist islamic terrorism has a realistic goal and plain indicators of success. What are they keeping it PC by not naming the Islamists as the root problem? War on Wahabbi would suit me too!

Our war on terorism could end up becoming more of a global excuse for assmunch leaders like Uzbekistans' "president" to crack down on legitimate freedom fighters in UZ just because of the association with the "war on terror" that has come to be placed on homegrown resistance efforts.

Yeah, the resistance in Uzbekistan is made up largely of Muslims as is the entire country, and yeah they are after his ass with little more than farm implements in many cases, but they are fighting for freedom from a freakin Stalinist asshole who makes Saddam look like a good neighbor.

We should be cheering these people on, lest Wahabbism and radical islam become the only good alternative to being put into the gulags or the ground. We could influence them toward democracy were we to help them wipe this fucknut out and replace him with a legitimate democratic system. God knows we need another friendly govt in Central Asia.

Also, We could have our hands tied in the international forums such as the UN that would limit our military options against such despots if we continue to define "terrorism" as the enemy.

Arms and support from America have and will continue to flow to small groups of freedom fighters(many of whom are defined as terrorist by the powers that be in their country)Kurdish resistance fighters are an example I could point to. We must retain that option as a legitimate use of force lest we allow those unfriendly UN factions the legal room to define our actions as terrorist.

Hell, most of the post WWII conflict of the 20th century was played out in proxy wars betwixt us and the Ruskies. Imagine if we had not retained the "freedom fighter" option. So this redefinition of the War on Teror is needed it seems.

Take it or leave it.

EP





Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-07-27 16:23||   2005-07-27 16:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Its official - the WOT is now a clash between GLOBAL EMPIRES AND WHICH -iSM(S) WILL CONTROL THE FUTURE GLOBAL OWG, one realistic [US/Western Democapitalism, Consumerism, etc.]while the other is a down-but-not-out, starving, but still desperate/power-hungry wannabe [Socialism-Communism]. Angry Leftism = Radic Islam = Socie-Communism = "ITS ABOUT ME AND HOW THE WORLD AND EVERYONE MUST BE RULED BY ME EVEN IFF I DON'T DESERVE IT". Left > better get my or our way or I/We are gonna break something, and take the world with us like the way the Chicoms blew up the Moon circa 2030. *BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-07-27 23:14||   2005-07-27 23:14|| Front Page Top

#6 Face it, the 'WOT' was a joke from the beginning. As Wolfowitz would put it, that was just the name used to get the ignorant masses behind the whole poorly thought out invasion of Iraq.

Probably their marketing dept. is changing the 'WOT' propaganda effort, realizing that obviously rather than fighting terrorism, they have simply added more fuel to the fire.

Further, while the U.S. is bogged down, real WMD threats like China and N. Korea build up their military, and countries like Iran ink deals with China, India and Russia. Afghanistan/Pakistan/Saudi Arabia teeter along, where will the resources be should things start to unwind there?

Further, Chicken Little "sky is falling" Bush and his poodle Blair, having lost credibility, where will they get help, having squandered it, when the Wolf really appears?

Sun Tzu long ago said the first thing is to "Understand your enemy." With most people reading Drudge and NYTimes - that's not going to happen.

Posted by Peter Jones">Peter Jones  2005-07-27 23:48||   2005-07-27 23:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Right, Peter. Maybe if I leave that bully alone, he'll stop taking my lunch money and giving me wedgies.
Posted by 11A5S 2005-07-27 23:54||   2005-07-27 23:54|| Front Page Top

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