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2005-07-18 Britain

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Posted by Steve 2005-07-18 15:16|| || Front Page|| [10326 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Wait -- I thought the explosives were homemade in the bathtub according to a recipe. Where is Debka getting their information?

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2005-07-18 15:32|| 2005-07-18 15:32|| Front Page Top

#2 About two days after the bombing there was a brief article about the Serbian connection.

Posted by Bobby 2005-07-18 16:13|| 2005-07-18 16:13|| Front Page Top

#3 First the Blue Men then the Wheel Barrows, it's starting to make sense now. NMSBS. I'd keep a sharp eye out for abu Ethel Ready the Least Endowed.

Posted by 1066 2005-07-18 16:19|| 2005-07-18 16:19|| Front Page Top

#4 " . . . under the command of Mukhtav bin Mukhtar, known also as the Blind One because he is one-eyed."

Mukhtav bin Mukhtar. Mullah Omar. What is it with these one-eyed Islamofascist assclowns?

Posted by Tibor 2005-07-18 16:54|| 2005-07-18 16:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Blue-faced Man of the Sahara.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-07-18 17:04|| 2005-07-18 17:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Will nobody say it?
Tuaregs: Why do they hate us?

Posted by True German Ally 2005-07-18 17:08|| 2005-07-18 17:08|| Front Page Top

#7 It's possible, but not probable.There's roughly 1.3 to 2 million million of the nominally Islamic Tuareg. There still are Tuareg caravans, but reportedly most of them have ceased being nomadic. However, they did fight against the goverments of Mali and Niger until the mid 1990's.

Posted by Pappy 2005-07-18 17:11|| 2005-07-18 17:11|| Front Page Top

#8 While they picked several valid situations, the problem lies in weaving them together. Yes, one can buy weapons in Serbia. Yes, the Tuareg exist along yet another ancient smuggling route. Yes, Zarqari plans and schemes in the Middle East. However, the distance between Belgrade and London is about 1000 miles, whereas the distance from Belgrade to Mali to London is about 5000 miles, and a considerably harder trip, with far fewer modern conveyances, so why not smuggle the explosives directly? Second of all, Mr Z might just be a little distracted right now, what with losing almost all of his senior subordinates and getting shot. Third, there *is* a *real* connection between the bombers and Pakistan, and their chemist and Egypt, so Occam's razor would suggest that the Brits should sniff around there before making investment into the meanderings of Tuareg.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-07-18 17:36|| 2005-07-18 17:36|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree, Debka is out to lunch on this. You only have to consult a map to understand that the Tuareg live in a vast incredibly remote area. It would be a good place to hide out but using it for logistics or trans-shipping drugs makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-18 17:44|| 2005-07-18 17:44|| Front Page Top

#10 The Tuaregs are great and renowned smugglers who are largely cut off from the rest of the world. Traditionally they are herders and traders.

These people were subjugated and brought into Islam by force over the past few centuries, but are renowned for their bravery in battle and their elusiveness.

It's not news that they are engaged in smuggling, what the hell else are they going to do. Race camels maybe. They still try to maintain a nomadic lifestyle, but that is fading fast as cultural pressure comes to bear in the region, and an agrarian or semi agrarian economy is taking over their traditional stompin grounds.

Usually they work for a tribal leader, imam or sheikh locally who pimps out their services to the highest bidder, no ideaology involved on their end. Most are probably ignorant and illiterate and never even heard of a War on Terror, their just doin their camel thing. Heroin, nukes, hashish, c4, eggs, chickens, rugs, whatever. They still get their $1 a day and couldn't care less what they are carrying,unless they thought they could steal it and sell it for a profit.

Is Debka FOS? maybe, they generally have a pretty good take on this type of intelligence in the region. Better than most at least.

I know for a fact AIPAC takes them very, very seriously, and that their analysts are in contact with Debka's people often. Whatever that's worth.

Nuff said.

Thank ya, thank ya very much.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-07-18 17:45|| 2005-07-18 17:45|| Front Page Top

#11 Occams razor indeed, Moose, your experience speaks volumes here.

Thank ya, thank ya very much.
EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-07-18 17:50|| 2005-07-18 17:50|| Front Page Top

#12 Smuggling is just unregulated trade. In the absence of the apparatus of a state, all trade is automatically smuggling. All nomads are also traders. The issue is not whether the Tuareg are smugglers, the issue is would you use them as part of a trans-shipment network, that's the part that makes no sense.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-18 18:10|| 2005-07-18 18:10|| Front Page Top

#13 True dat, true dat.

A whole lot of speculation in the article.
As per Debka standards, believable, but unprovable. Great conspriacy fodder nonetheless.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-07-18 18:14|| 2005-07-18 18:14|| Front Page Top

#14 What is it with these one-eyed Islamofascist assclowns?

They're Eyes of Gruumsh.

Posted by SC88 2005-07-18 21:18|| 2005-07-18 21:18|| Front Page Top

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