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2005-05-25 Israel-Palestine

Israel disguises assassinations as ~~crossfire~~ attempted arrests

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Posted by Steve 2005-05-25 11:39|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 An Israeli human rights group accused the Israeli army on Wednesday of carrying out targeted killings disguised as attempted arrests.

How clever of them! Did they patent that business method, or can we use that, too?

Posted by Mike">Mike 2005-05-25 12:18|| 2005-05-25 12:18|| Front Page Top

#2 IDF should have "found" a shutter gun and a handful of bullets for the ploy to work properly...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-05-25 12:21|| 2005-05-25 12:21|| Front Page Top

#3 In a related story, the human rights group said that palestinian mortar barrages on Israeli civilians were simply attempts at peace negotiations, and were misunderstood by the Israelis.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-05-25 12:30|| 2005-05-25 12:30|| Front Page Top

#4 On their web page on this report they have testimony of 7 people. All are, in some way, family members or friends or associates. They don't have any testimony from IDF eyewitnesses.

Posted by mhw 2005-05-25 12:46|| 2005-05-25 12:46|| Front Page Top

#5 ...or were armed but did not attempt to use their weapons against the soldiers trying to arrest them.

Yeah, I'm sure the first thing on the IDF's mind when faced with this situation is, "Hmmmmmmmmm. What would Human Rights Watch do?"

Posted by tu3031 2005-05-25 13:02|| 2005-05-25 13:02|| Front Page Top

#6 I'd be more sympathetic to this line of argument if Israel's lack of a death penalty and proclivity for releasing "militants" in ill-favored prisoner exchanges didn't mean that any asshole captured in the normal fashion will be strutting the streets of Ramallah again as soon as Hezbollah finds the time to kidnap another businessman, or even just find an Israeli corpse to steal.

Give 'em back the death penalty and stop trading terrorists for hostages, Ari. Be amazed as the number of live captures suddenly skyrockets.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2005-05-25 13:09|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2005-05-25 13:09|| Front Page Top

#7 live captures serve little purpose - these mooks are hard-core indoctrinated thugs. Better to take no chances

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-05-25 13:41|| 2005-05-25 13:41|| Front Page Top

#8 Is today "human rights day" or something? If the guys making the "arrests" even think the the suspect might be armed and the suspect doesn't do as he is told, if they get shot it's on them. These guys want to go home too. No mysterious scheme involved. These "human rights" folks need to get a life.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-05-25 14:08|| 2005-05-25 14:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Wonder if this "human rights" group considers your finger on a cell phone a "weapon." Or finger on a detonator of the explosives wrapped around your chest, and not just guns? I could easily see how the IDF would shoot anyone with those 2 situations. Heck, look at our local future Darwin Award nominees who get caught in a police chase and pull a TOY gun out at the cops, and poof, they're gone and the families are left screaming at the cops. Think of that mentality in Paleo-land and you get the picture of why IDF does what it does.

Posted by BA">BA 2005-05-25 14:11|| 2005-05-25 14:11|| Front Page Top

#10 This post by Melanie Phillips shows the attempts that Israelis go to assassinating their targets:
href='http:// www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001223.html'>An average day in Jerusalem

Posted by Cynic 2005-05-25 14:25|| 2005-05-25 14:25|| Front Page Top

#11 Something weird happened to that link

An average day in Jerusalem

After Hassan was out of immediate danger, some colleagues used to ask me why we couldn't transfer him back to a Palestinian Authority hospital for further care. The truth is that I really felt that the procedures he had undergone had been so complex and his course so stormy that he would be better served remaining under the care of the team that operated on him during his admission, so he stayed.
'Hassan still comes for review at my clinic and is doing very well. The Israeli secret service now feels that he poses a minimal risk to Israeli civilians and as such have dropped the charges against him.
'Were we right to put so much effort and resource into one life when that person had murdered so many of our civilians? Would the Palestinians or even the Arab world do the same for a wounded Israeli? Our experience with shootings, kidnappings and lynchings suggests otherwise. Would other nations, if placed today in a similar state of war, afford such care to their enemies? Let s hope they never have to find out. As far as we are concerned, medicine is about the people who need to be treated regardless of race or religion. As doctors, we must just get on with the job in hand and leave justice to the judges'.
'Avraham Rivkind, Professor of Trauma Surgery, Hadassah Hospital, Jerusalem. Israel
Dan Ellis
Specialist Registrar in Emergency Medicine and Intensive Care, London'

Posted by Cynic 2005-05-25 14:31|| 2005-05-25 14:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Good read, Cynic. That post sums up what separates us and the savages.

Posted by BA">BA 2005-05-25 14:34|| 2005-05-25 14:34|| Front Page Top

#13 Muhammadanism has a long history of assassination. Muhammad himself had three critics assassinated. The famous assassin cult of Islam dispatched killers from their redoubts in the Persian and Syrian mountains.

The Jews of Israel had to become a bit like their enemy in order to defeat him. If these are actually assassinations I can live with that, easily.

Posted by sea cruise 2005-05-25 19:45|| 2005-05-25 19:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Good one, cynic. Thanks

Posted by sea cruise 2005-05-25 19:48|| 2005-05-25 19:48|| Front Page Top

#15 Works for me.

You go, Israel!

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-05-25 21:42|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-05-25 21:42|| Front Page Top

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