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2005-05-20 Home Front: Tech

Whoops? Antarctica Ice Thickens? Kyoto....uh....W ....Er

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Posted by Frank G 2005-05-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ice baby...It's got to be due to you know who.

I'd be on the look out for Kyoto moonbats with antifreeze.

Posted by Glereling Slineting2873 2005-05-20 01:15|| 2005-05-20 01:15|| Front Page Top

#2 If the Antarctic ice melts,it is obviously Global Warming.
If the ice thickens,it is because all the pollution we in the West are pumping into atmosphere is preventing the sun from melting the ice properly.
No matter what,it's our fault,blah,blah,blah.

Posted by Stephen 2005-05-20 01:32|| 2005-05-20 01:32|| Front Page Top

#3 This fits with water vapour being the major climate driver (we already know its the primary greenhouse gas), which in turn leads us back to volcanos as the primary driver of water vapour levels (oceanic evaporation is a secondary effect). This year is set to the most volcanically active without a major eruption ever recorded, which will give a nice boost to warming next year or the year after. So expect more tearing of hair and renting of clothes by the ~~sky is falling~~ Green crowd.

Posted by phil_b 2005-05-20 02:09|| 2005-05-20 02:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Most important part of the story, which is played almost as an aside:

However, the European Space Agency satellite CryoSat, due to be launched later this year, should be able to make very accurate altitude measurements around the coast, providing evidence of exactly how much ice is being lost there. Only when scientists put all these measurements together will the full truth about Antarctica's ice become clear, says Vaughan.

In other words, we don't know the truth yet, but we know it's global warming. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Sounds like Newsweek and CBS all over again...and there's are these gems...

* East Antarctica thickened at an average rate of about 1.8 centimetres per year over the time period studied, the researchers discovered. The region comprises about 75% of Antarctica's total land area - but as its ice is thicker, it carries about 85% of the total ice volume.
* The smaller West Antarctica showed an overall thinning of 0.9 centimetres per year.

So, West Antartica comprises 15% of the total ice.

Therefore, the much, much larger piece is growing twice as fast as the smaller piece is shrinking. Correct me, please, but the math here indicates that the place that have 90% of ALL the world's is ADDING far more ice than it is losing.

Michael Crichton is right. This entire global warming story is looking more and more like a crock.

Posted by RMcLeod 2005-05-20 02:38|| 2005-05-20 02:38|| Front Page Top

#5 I call for more studies! And lots of government funding!

Posted by Prof. Clyde Crashcup 2005-05-20 08:31|| 2005-05-20 08:31|| Front Page Top

#6 RMcLoed

Just because E Antarctic sheet is getting thicker does not mean there is no global warming. In fact, many numerical models predict more snowfall over Antarctica with moderate warming (this is intuitively attractive because warmer air can hold way more water vapor).

One key to understanding this overall situation is the continued rise of sea level. This has a number of components, but one is that warm water is less dense and, even though the increase in temperature in tiny and even though the decrease in density is tiny, the ocean is so deep (about 2 miles on the average) that a small temperature rise in mean ocean temperature causes a rise in sea level.

Of course, changing water density isn't the only thing going on but it is thought to be an important driver in the increase in sea level.

Posted by mhw 2005-05-20 08:38|| 2005-05-20 08:38|| Front Page Top

#7 ...the European Space Agency satellite CryoSat,

Hope that ain't the French name for SkyNet...

Posted by Raj 2005-05-20 08:44|| 2005-05-20 08:44|| Front Page Top

#8 Only a moron would claim climate change is not happening and only a bigger moron can think we can stop it. The fact is that climate is warming and cooling over different timescales and from different influences. The issue and the only issue is whether manmade influences are driving a catastrophic change in climate. There is no evidence to date that climate change has produced an even noticeable effect on the weather anywhere, never mind a catastrophy.

Posted by phil_b 2005-05-20 08:52|| 2005-05-20 08:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Of course, if we're heading for another Ice Age, not only does ice get thicker, but the world gets drier as water is trapped in ice. Drier world means less rain (duh), but also less clouds, which means more sunlight reaches the ground.

Last time I checked, more sunlight = warmer temps in sunny areas.

In a full blown Ice Age you'd would not be surprised to see the world with ice top and bottom, with blazing deserts around the middle.

The whole idea behind the Black Sea flood was that an ending ice age raised sea levels and the higher sea broke through the Bosporus to the lower (due to dry conditions) Black Sea.

Hmmm, interesting stuff. Maybe I have a topic for my monthly post on my own lame site now, lol.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2005-05-20 9:23:48 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2005-05-20 9:23:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I have seen from some scientists (don't remember where, sorry) that poo-poo the whole global warming thing, that the sea levels wont' rise that much at all. For the ice caps that are in the ocean, already displace the water and if they melt, the level remains the same if not reduces since water expands when it freezes. The ice on the land is what would cause the sea level to rise, and there isn't that much of it. Of course, since the scientists poo-poo global warming and the destruction of the earth, they are ignored by the MSM.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-05-20 10:31|| 2005-05-20 10:31|| Front Page Top

#11 read Chrichton's State of Fear (sending it to you today, AP)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-05-20 10:57|| 2005-05-20 10:57|| Front Page Top

#12 Ice thickens in Antarctic winter. Dang. I want some research money, too!

Posted by eLarson 2005-05-20 11:00|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-05-20 11:00|| Front Page Top

#13 Snows More in Winter. Film at eleven...

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