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2005-01-21 Israel-Palestine

Hamas leaders, Abu Mazen hold "positive talks" in Gaza

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-21 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 hmmmm.....why, it's almost too good to be true.

I see only two possible scenarios - Abbas offered these guys something "worth their while" in the new govt. of Palestine...or something is cooking behind the scenes.

Hey Sharon, if they want to shake your hand, be sure to watch your back.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-21 6:05:15 AM|| 2005-01-21 6:05:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm kinda stumped here. With the PA collecting guns, and a good number of the terrorist factions willing to work together, this really consolidates Abbas' power. I'm not naive enough to think that Abbas has the welfare of the Palestinian people in mind here. Nor do I miss the fact that the ceasefire is a house of cards. But a new dynamic is clearly in play.

I'm not sure what's really happening here.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-21 6:13:49 AM|| 2005-01-21 6:13:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I didn't read the article to say that they are currently collecting guns, only that they plan to do so. Many plans have been announced over the years; I don't recall any that were actually implemented.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-21 8:58:45 AM|| 2005-01-21 8:58:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Theyre not collecting guns, but they ARE deploying Pal forces to the Gaza border. We have yet to see if they are effective. It seems not unreasonable to force the Hamasniks to actually defy Pal forces at the border, rather than begin to gun collecting raids "unprovoked" - unfortunately lots of the Pal populace, while they got the idea that the rocket attacks hurt THEM, still think of the Hamasniks as legitimate.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-01-21 9:41:14 AM|| 2005-01-21 9:41:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Paleos talk. And promise. And posture. The true indication of a real change would be corroborated evidence that the PA has actually done something that supports either the roadmap or other Israeli/PA understandings -- like disarming terror organizations, stopping an attack on Israel or actually arresting bad guys (and keeping them arrested).

Posted by PlanetDan 2005-01-21 2:48:29 PM|| 2005-01-21 2:48:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 A co-worker came in today wearing a black-n-white keffiyeh. I was speechless. He was also wearing a kilt so not sure how serious he is...

Posted by Seafarious 2005-01-21 3:09:15 PM|| 2005-01-21 3:09:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 isn't today Robbie Burns day?

Posted by 2b 2005-01-21 3:16:19 PM|| 2005-01-21 3:16:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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