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2004-12-07 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by tipper 2004-12-07 2:31:47 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ahhh, these New Age parents! In the old days it was military school for the boys, and convent school for the girls. I imagine it was a good deal cheaper, too.

While I don't like the idea, for some over-the-edge youngsters this kind of thing is necessary. Yes it is brainwashing, but their old brains were leading them to self-destruction. Personally, I would try military/convent school first, with the threat of WWASP hanging over the kid's head, and parenting classes to make sure we aren't inadvertantly abetting the bad behaviour. This kind of thing should not be allowed to come as a surprise, but as a clear consequence of personal choices. But I'm funny that way.

Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-07 3:29:34 PM|| 2004-12-07 3:29:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Nobody is forcing anyone to send their kids to these schools, unlike the state school system for example.

Posted by phil_b 2004-12-07 4:17:14 PM|| 2004-12-07 4:17:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sometimes I think these 'methods' are necessary. And often the parents bring it on themselves by (as the comments indicated) treating the adolescent as a 'adult' and not an 'adult-in-training'.

On the other hand I've heard of a lot of cases where the kid simply 'takes control' and, in effect, threatens the parents with the CPS (Child Protective Service here in WA). Often the kids learn this in school (both from the Administration and other kids...).

Often this is the only way a parent can 'fix' their mistake.

As for this reporter, one of these days he will find out that A) life is not fair, and B) Respect has to be earned.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-12-07 4:52:24 PM|| 2004-12-07 4:52:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 On the fourth hand, I've heard a lot bad about these institutions; they allegedly escape regulation as schools because they're treatment centers of some sort, and escape regulation as mental hospitals because they're allegedly schools of some sort.

I've gotten the impression that these places are positively bad for anyone who actually has real mental problems that can't be improved by massive administration of antidepressants, tranquilizers, or brainwashing.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-12-07 6:41:28 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-12-07 6:41:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 As the fifth hand, I've known folks who've used these things. They've got kids who are out of control and whose next stop may be the slammer. They've also got perfectly normal kids who are being affected by having parents attention diverted to the live in juvenile delinquent.

Most of these kids have recreational drug problems that are dealt with using non-drug therapies. It can be a lot like boot camp in the sense of giving the kid a whole new self definition that repalces everything that was there before. If this is brainwashing, some need Clorox.

These parents have one helluva problem and don't get a lot of help from anyone. These situations are heart breaking and take a toll on marriages and everybody else in the family. I've missed this bullet on the first two. The third remains to be seen. I just hope my knowledge remains second hand.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-07 7:24:03 PM|| 2004-12-07 7:24:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Somwehat ironic thought - they are not that far away from Guantanamo - where another species of delinquents are enjoying long stretches in "Observational Placement."

I live in Thailand - where thousands of minor drug offenders are sent to what amounts to "boot camp" for three straight years. There are certainly recidivists - but many evidently get straightened out. Most are happy that they didn't fall into the "non-minor" drug offender category - whose members tend to be summarily executed in Thailand "while trying to escape."

Ranger school 1976 got my attention.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2004-12-07 11:11:16 PM|| 2004-12-07 11:11:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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