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2004-11-16 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve 2004-11-16 8:36:42 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 sooo...was the general direction he fled towards Israel?

Posted by 2b 2004-11-16 9:32:27 AM|| 2004-11-16 9:32:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I know this shows my ignorance, but I'm curious and have little pride, so I'll ask it anyway. Considering all of this talk from our law enforcement re: Al Qaedea's planning to use and having nukes and this sudden upsurge in subs intruding on the territorial waters of Japan, Israel and ...somewhere else - forget where... do the Iranians or Chineses have the capability to launch nukes from their subs?

Posted by 2b 2004-11-16 9:47:16 AM|| 2004-11-16 9:47:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Chinese: likely, range limited

Iranians? - nope

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-16 9:51:41 AM|| 2004-11-16 9:51:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Iran has Kilos

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-16 9:54:50 AM|| 2004-11-16 9:54:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 They are certainly going to be sorry.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-11-16 10:14:57 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2004-11-16 10:14:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Thanks. strange, no? - two hostile sub sitings so close together. Don't know if it means anything.

Posted by 2b 2004-11-16 10:26:03 AM|| 2004-11-16 10:26:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 SINK the next one...the Chi-coms will putup or shutup after that!

Posted by smn 2004-11-16 6:57:15 PM|| 2004-11-16 6:57:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 AYMMETRIC WARFARE applies to air and naval combat, not just land-based insurgencies. I believe that that the next naval war invol major world powers, espec iff the USA vs China in East Asia over NorKor and Taiwan, will be mostly UNDERWATER,in addition to rapid airborne-based conventional strikes and milog, includ use of NUCLEAR. mostly TAC ARTY as SELF-DEFENSE of area conquered via "SEARCH/TAKE-AND-HOLD" tactics, submarines can be used for both delivery of sizable commando/sapper forces, PRE-INVASION/[ABN]FIRST STRIKE as well as POST-INVASION/FOLLOW-ON milog resupply -read, hide from US Carrier Groups. The Russkis a while back wanted to convert and dev TYPHOON-style hulls for use as UW Transports of valuable commodities, espec for use in [under]the ARTIC, in both the Pacific and Atlantic. They also dev LR HIGH-CAPACITY SEAPLANES and other high-speed "NICHE'" assets, ostensibly for alleged "COMMERCIAL" PURPOSES, i.e. DUAL/MULTI-USE includ Military.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2004-11-16 8:37:29 PM|| [http://n/a] 2004-11-16 8:37:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 JAPAN TIMES - the Chinese sub may be the same one that was detected off the US island of GUAM and chased/followed by USN P-3C patrol planes. Guam, the CNMI and Micronesia in general are militarily strategic for the USA as these islands cover any military offense or defense to and from the Philippines and East Asia, as well as the strategic approaches to the western USA, Hawaii State, and NORAM from Asia. The Chicoms know this as they have declared Guam, the CNMI, and Micronesia to be not only their "SECOND-TIER/LAYER OF DEFENSE AND CONFRONTATION", and "ISLANDS/TURTLES OF WAR" to confront, counter and defend China from the USA and USAF/USN Carriers, but also have declared the same to be within their "Sphere/Circle of Influence
or Control" - Chinese Communist and Beijing-ese lingo for future Chinese territory(s). Control of Guam, et al. also potentially allows the USA to extend Global Missle Defense and SPAWAR/SATWAR reach over AT LEAST 3/4's of the Pacific Ocean and then some. Like for Yamamoto and the Imperial Japanese Navy during WW2, the capture of American Guam, etal, will likely also be a highly important priority for the PLA Army-Navy-AirForces-Second Artillery should any shooting war break out between the USA and China o'er North Korea andor Taiwan. China cannot achieve her desires of East Asian hegemony as long as anti-Chinese Asian democracies, espec JAPAN, let alone the USA, are there to successfully compete econ and militarily against her. China's Communists are like Russia in that they both believe that if nothing is done to stop the USA now, in the future the USA and internal pressures /demands for Western-style DemCapitalism will be too strong for any nation, group of nations, or International-Global Leftism-Socialism-Communism to milpol successfully resist! ERGO 9-11, Bill Clinton's anti-USA "Big BOY" speech, and world Islamists, Communists, Socialists, and Fascists sleeping together in the love bed of anti-Americanism and OWG.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2004-11-16 11:04:08 PM|| [http://n/a] 2004-11-16 11:04:08 PM|| Front Page Top

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