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2004-09-25 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by tipper 2004-09-25 12:58:33 PM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Hello, Europe: this is your wakeup call.

You are now under the umbrella of Iranian tolerance, against Iranian biological, chemical and possibly nuclear weapons.

Don't you wish the US had Ballistic Missle Defense capability?

Oh thats right, we do, even if its rudimentary. But not for you - you laughed at it and basically told us to go home and "throw away our money".

I hope Chirac, and all the other Eurocentric socialists enjoy living under the threat of the Islamic Nuclear Powers - you've brought it upon yourself with your craven pandering and abject moral abandonment of wester civilization.

Break out the Burkhas in Paris, Berlin and Madrid.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-25 1:18:19 PM|| 2004-09-25 1:18:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Tehran is making it pretty clear that taking out their nuclear facilities is not enough. Most of the Iranian military and all of Qom are going to have to be glassed over.

Can you imagine that Tehran will implement the kind of command and control that has kept us from having any rogue firings?

Posted by Tom 2004-09-25 1:24:05 PM|| 2004-09-25 1:24:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 No "glass" needed.

Simply knock out enough of the government control facilities at the right time in the right circumstance, and you can throw Iran into a civil war.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-25 1:41:58 PM|| 2004-09-25 1:41:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Simply knock out enough of the government control facilities at the right time in the right circumstance, and you can throw Iran into a civil war.

While that represents a good start, Old Spook, we are also obliged to level all of Iran's nuclear facilities. We cannot be sure who will take the reins if and when Iran's government is toppled. Even if friendly parties did assume power, it would still remain prudent to deny them any form of nuclear weapons development.

I continue to maintain that Iran's nuclear facilities all need to be attacked during peak periods of operation so that maximum casualties are inflicted upon their scientific staff and all operational support crews. This should extend to specific targeting of each sites' air raid shelters as well.

Iran has no immediate need for nuclear power generation. The burn-off from their oil refineries alone could probably provide equal levels of power generation that they ostensibly seek via nuclear technology.

If Iran ends up with a government that is friendly to the west, we can then provide them with power-only reactors that will ensure no dual use for military purposes. As of now, our major objective must be the elimination of both their facilities and technically trained staff. Nothing less will serve to reinstate some modicum of regional stability that is so directly threatened by the prospect of a nuclear armed Iran.

Posted by Zenster 2004-09-25 2:00:04 PM|| 2004-09-25 2:00:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 The FIRST thing to do is to create a propaganda war. That is, publish a list of names and faces of mullahs and scientists who will be KILLED if and when there is war. No effort at capture. No bargains. Deliver this list to as many Iranians as you can. Explain that these are the people responsible for the projected deaths of TENS OF MILLIONS OF IRANIANS, unless they are KILLED. And then a message to Iranians: These people are forcing the world to destroy your nation with nuclear weapons, killing every man, woman, and child. "Kill these people, NOW, or we will kill them for you. They MUST DIE, and they WILL DIE." Kill them now and save your nation.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-09-25 2:12:59 PM|| 2004-09-25 2:12:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Not good enough, OldSpook. We have to make sure that they can't fire at oil facilities on the other side of the gulf. They need sudden nuclear, military, and leadership destruction. We can't leave any room for escalation.

Posted by Tom 2004-09-25 3:55:17 PM|| 2004-09-25 3:55:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Iran said today it has successfully test-fired a long-range "strategic missile" and delivered it to its armed forces, saying it is now prepared to deal with any regional threats and even the "big powers."

Bad move, boys. You don't draw the attention of the 800 lb. gorilla by clearly insinuating that you're willing to take it on, lest he pound your face into the dirt. Whatever you got up your sleeve, your adversaries have more of, with more kick to them, and more accuracy, to boot.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-09-25 5:28:35 PM|| 2004-09-25 5:28:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I guess Jack Straw would argue this is only an opening bid in higher stakes negotiations. Neville Jr. - what a putz

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-25 5:51:59 PM|| 2004-09-25 5:51:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Truth time, mates. Now we'll see whether my (and Niall Ferguson's) supposition-- that Tony's support for us in Iraq was a fluke, and that the British political elite, no less than the French, perceives Britain's long-term mideastern interests to be with the French and their major muslim powers/trading partners, ie Iran-- is correct. I hope I'm wrong. But we'll have an answer soon.

Posted by lex 2004-09-25 5:56:58 PM|| 2004-09-25 5:56:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 "Iranâs new missiles can reach London, Paris, Berlin and southern Russia, according to weapons and intelligence analysts."

Do Euers have to worry just because the peaceloving Islamic Democracy of Iran has the means to kill a lot of them?

Posted by Anonymous6092 2004-09-25 6:01:45 PM|| 2004-09-25 6:01:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Frank: Jack = Tony. Jack's errand is at Tony's bidding. If we can't count on Tony's givernment to stand up to the mullahs, then it's safe to say we can't ever count on any UK government to stand up to this existential threat. In other words, this may mark the beginning of the end of the Special Alliance. Suez Crisis in reverse, if you like.

Note to our UK friends: I do not wish the above to come to pass. However, I'm a realist. Let's take the world as we find it, not as we wish it to be.

Posted by lex 2004-09-25 6:03:00 PM|| 2004-09-25 6:03:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Lex, I'm not convinced Jack hasn't sold Blair a bill of Goods re: th edevelopments in diplomacy in Tehran. This should end it. If Blair doesn't respond, you're right....

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-25 6:06:37 PM|| 2004-09-25 6:06:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Speaking of bill of Goods... LOL! Consider the rotation of the earth, the morons in the story are basing this on an west to east launch. The targets on in another direction.... hmmmm.... add another 2,000 mph to the missle and we'll see.

Posted by Shipman 2004-09-25 6:44:40 PM|| 2004-09-25 6:44:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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