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Hamas: Arab State May Have Helped in Syria Killing
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Cops, hard boyz clash in Riyadh
Saudi security forces, battling a wave of al Qaeda attacks in the world's biggest oil exporter, clashed with suspected militants in the capital Riyadh on Sunday. Police arrested one suspect after the shootout in the southern Shifa district, which broke out with the occupants of a car after it tried to speed away from a patrol, an Interior Ministry security spokesman told the Saudi Press Agency. No policemen or bystanders were hurt, the spokesman said. The shootout in Riyadh came hours after a Frenchman who worked for French defence electronics firm Thales was shot dead in the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah. It was the second such killing this month by suspected al Qaeda militants.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/27/2004 12:58:07 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
During the terror act a Karaganda boy was shot
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2004 14:02 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

Caucasus Corpse Count
A Russian soldier and three policemen have been killed in a shooting in the capital, according to Russian media reports. The soldier and the three officers were on patrol in Grozny's Leninsky district on Saturday evening and had stopped two cars to check the passengers' documents, the Interfax news agency reported on Sunday, quoting Maj-Gen Ilya Shabalkin, a Russian government spokesman in Chechnya. A passenger in one of the cars gave an officer what appeared to be a fake Interior Ministry identification card, Shabalkin said. When the officer returned to his car to call headquarters, armed men in one of the cars opened fire, killing the soldier and three officers, he said. The dead included a Federal Security Service official and two Chechen Interior Ministry officers, Shabalkin told Interfax and the ITAR-Tass news agency. A search for the men is under way, Shabalkin said, adding that authorities suspect one of the men to be Mashugov, who allegedly works with Chechen separatist leader Shamil Basayev.

In a separate incident, a senior police official was killed in the neighbouring Russian region of Dagestan, authorities said on Sunday. Two armed men on Saturday night fired on Magomed Gadzhimagomedov, who headed a regional branch of the Interior Ministry's criminal investigation division, outside the entrance to his home in Buinaksk, said Abdul Musayev, a spokesman for Dagestan's Interior Ministry. Gadzhimagomedov, 48, was returning home from his office in Buinaksk, about 30km southwest of the regional capital, Makhachkala, Musayev said. He had worked for the police department for 20 years.

Shabalkin also said on Saturday a government reconnaissance patrol clashed with about 20 separatist fighters near the village of Surkhakhi in neighbouring Ingushetia. At least three fighters were killed, Shabalkin told Interfax. Shabalkin said the group left behind military equipment and ammunition.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/27/2004 2:53:25 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

Soddies took part in Beslan
Russia has determined that the Islamic takeover of a high school in which nearly 400 people were killed was executed and financed by Saudi nationals. Russian officials said authorities have confirmed that Saudi nationals were among the 32 attackers who captured the high school in Beslan in August. They said the attack was financed in part by a Saudi charity and planned by Saudi nationals who joined the Chechen revolt a decade ago. "There is no Saudi government link," an official said. "But we are sure that Saudi nationals and Saudi money contributed to this terrorist attack." The Saudis were joined by Jordanians and Syrians recruited by Al Qaida-aligned operatives in the Middle East, officials said. They said Al Qaida has provided the ideology for the Chechen revolt, led by Shamil Basayev.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/27/2004 2:44:51 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's this 40 km wide stretch of land.....
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Easily accessible by sea...
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/27/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  hmm..if they know this..then I'm guessing those Saudi nationals will soon be dead. Putin will avenge Beslan. I'm guessing these guys are on the top of the to-do list.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Putin killing Bush's friends may make Bush mad as hell.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#5  oh, poision - you are so clever. Now go outside and chant your Halliburton, Bush lied, and Bush-Hitler mantras - over and over and over again. In fact, just get a drum and pound on it - it's all the same meaningless noise.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  If a solid link is found to Saudi financiers, a Russian wack on some of them will send a great message to others to shut down their dirty little business. Dry up the well and they get no water.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#7  It is funny you say that, I can literally go outside and see Halliburton. Bottomline, I am not down with the name calling on either sides. I am an independent conservative, like Michael Savage. I do deep research on both sides and filter the spin.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#8  I do deep research on both sides

oooh...you are deeep!

At this point in the election - if you are still an "independent" what does that mean? - To a thinking, intelligent, person the options should be crystal clear by this point.

Or does it mean that you think you can sit on the fence, like Kerry and have it both ways - not committing to anything so you can pretend to be above the fray - smug and superior looking down your nose on both sides. "Because I have committed to no ideas of my own - I need not defend my point of view and instead will simply snipe at the opinion of others. I think that makes me seem WISE."

Just so you know, I look down upon people who try to keep all their options open. I think they are just too afraid to make a decision - afraid it will be the wrong one - so they end up making no decison and going nowhere in life.

Hey, but maybe that doesn't apply to you.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#9  I am an independent conservative, like Michael Savage.

I'll post a comment when I finally stop laughing.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/27/2004 11:41 Comments || Top||

#10  2B 2004-09-27, Stop spinning my words. I am not sitting on the fence. I was for Bush in 2000 and now I am for Kerry. If Kerry screws up like Bush, then I will vote for a GOP in 2008. The last time I checked, this country is not a dictatorship.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#11  If you are voting for Kerry, then you are a democrat, without the guts to call yourself one.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 11:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Pappy 2004-09-27, If you don't think Michael Savage is an independent, ask him yourself. Read his books, he chastises Bush plenty of times, on a variety of issues.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||

#13  2B 2004-09-27, Did you miss the part about "I was for Bush in 2000"? So how can I be a Dummycrat.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#14  Poison Reverse has drunk the kool-aid. Probably a troll.
Posted by: SR-71 || 09/27/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#15  boy..poison really made your point - 2B. By his own admission, he simply votes for one candidate one year - and then when that candidate isn't perfect (as no candidate can be) then he votes for the other candidate the next year.

That way, he doesn't need to stand for his own convictions - he can simply whine and complain that others aren't achieving perfection to his satisfaction.

What else would explain his flip from Bush in 2000 to flop Kerry in 04? And if Kerry isn't perfect - then he'll flop back to GOP. Flip/flop/flip/flop - no wonder he backs Kerry.
Posted by: anon || 09/27/2004 11:56 Comments || Top||

#16  anon 2004-09-27, it is good to know that all the bloggers got me all figured out. I feel better now. Thank you all.
Posted by: Anonymous6681 || 09/27/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#17  truth hurts - doesn't it, convictionless flippity/flop boy. I'm tired of you, troll. Go away and drink your glass of self-righteous-superiority whine elsewhere. You have no convictions of your own - so you are boring.

Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#18  PR,

It doesn't help the nation to deny that there are many good reasons to vote against Bush. Of course he and Rum/Wolf/Feith screwed up many aspects of the postwar, and some of those screwups were unforgiveable (esp overruling the chiefs re troop strength levels and disregarding State's planning docs).

And poison, while I could see the logic in voting against Bush-- nb I'm a hawkish Dem, not a Repub-- I see no reason to vote for Kerry. As a defector from the other side (loyal Dem here who finds Kerry and the Dem leasdership utterly horrifying) I'm willing to believe you're not a troll, Poison, but I'll hold judgment until I see you put forth three solid reasons that for voting FOR Kerry rather than merely against Bush. The only one I can think of is that Kerry might be stymied on the spending/fiscal front as Clinton was post-94 and thus we may get real deficit reduction, which seems unlikely under Bush.

In the fp field I grant each candidate a fair amount of slack re tactical screwups, like the postwar planning. The big issue is their strategic view, and my party simply has no coherent strategy to speak of. Hence the repeated idiocies about the need to bring along the French, who have made it clear again and again to all and sundry that on most middle east issues they're on the other side, and the repeated silliness about the crucial importance of the UN.

None of the Dems' foreign-policy worthies has shown any grasp of what to me's the most important fact of all: NATO is next to useless against this threat, and for that matter so is the EU's triangulation strategy (see Straw's mission in Iran). All the threats we face arise from an Asian-- ie near eastern and far eastern-- arc of instability, and the Asian and Eurasian powers are now crucial to our destiny.

Holbrooke's a smart guy but he's living in the wrong century. He, Albright, Sandy P et al still think the world turns around the Atlantic alliance.

That ceased to be the case thirteen years ago. At least Rumsfeld, Armitage et al understand that in this century our destiny lies with the Asian and Eurasian powers. They've done a damned good job with Pakistan and Afghanistan and are almost certain to do a better job than Kerry's people re. Russia and India. This difference in outlook and emphasis makes all the difference to my vote.

Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#19  wow lex...I think you are giving him waay too much credit. But it makes me think well of you that you try.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 12:38 Comments || Top||

#20  ive done a lot of deep research too war and peace and lawrence of arabia

ive got both classik comiks pretty thick ones too
Posted by: half || 09/27/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#21  hmmmmm, Half: "World History - Illustrated by R. Crumb"?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#22  lex 2004-09-27,

"I'm willing to believe you're not a troll, Poison, but I'll hold judgment until I see you put forth three solid reasons that for voting FOR Kerry rather than merely against Bush"

1. I truly believe that, in this age of terrorism, NO Democrat can get away with selling this country down the river, like Clinton. There will be a major backlash, like the Democrats, have never seen before.

2. When the terrorists were holed up in the Church of Nativity, Bush would not let Israel do its thing. Instead, Bush gave a 1st class flight and a 5 star hotel to the terrorists in Cyprus.

3. Bush said that he would capture or kill Sadr. But, Bush allowed Sadr to get away. Not only did he get away, Allawi promised Tater, a position in the Iraqi government. Tater should be dead by now, if we had a real war president.

3. Bush is the first president to push for a two state solution in Israel. That land was promised to Abraham by the God of Israel. The Plaeo's need to go back where they came from, oh thats right, the Arab countries don't want them back. The Paleo's are nothing but the trash of the Arab world. Even the nobel prize seeking Clinton did not push for two states.

4. Bush is the first president to invite Muslims to a White House dinner. I thought he was born again and again and again Christian. One of the Muslims at the dinner was found to be a major supporter of terrorists.

5. I could to go on, but you asked for only three.

Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#23  How about a list of names of funders. Then we could have a race to see who kills them first.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#24  So, Poison Reverse's reasons to vote for Kerry are:

Bush did this and
Bush did that and
Bush ...
Bush ...
Bush ...
Bush ...

Nowehere he says I am voting for Kerry because Kerry would do this
Kerry would do that
Kerry would also...
That would cover it, 3 reasons.

Trollhood seems to be confirmed.
Posted by: Memesis || 09/27/2004 14:34 Comments || Top||

#25  Sock Puppet of Doom,
The dinner happened a while back so it will take some time to get the research. But if someone has the information, please post it. I only blame Bush because the buck stops with him. Bush DID NOT personally invite the Muslims. Bush's handlers invited them, to appease the Mulims around the world. It was found later AFTER the dinner, that one of the invities supported terrorism.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 14:41 Comments || Top||

#26  "Nowehere he says I am voting for Kerry because Kerry would do this Kerry would do that Kerry would also"

If Kerry becomes president and if I see that is screwing this country, he will be pounded also, by me.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#27  Dude - if you liked Jimmuh you'll love Kerry.

Don't be fuelish. Even if you don't care for W, and I'm not crazy about him either, it's becoming clear that Kerry is either clueless or emotionally disturbed or both. W is the safe choice in this election.
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 14:54 Comments || Top||

#28  Um PR I don't know WTF you are talking about.

To make it clear what I meant If the Russians have a list they should make it public so we can kill the useless baby killers.

I a voting for BUSH.
Bush has a plan to kill the baby killers

The only Quagmire is in John "fleching" Keery's brain.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#29  "In a computer network that uses the Routing Information Protocol (RIP) or other distance vector routing protocols, a poison reverse is a way in which a gateway node tells its neighbor gateways that one of the gateways is no longer connected." Reference.
Okay, which one of us is disconnected? I'm thinking it's Poison Reverse.
Posted by: Tom || 09/27/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#30  lex, enjoyable summation of the current political field in your post #18.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/27/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#31  Tom,

Poison Reverse ("TELLS its neighbor") gateways that one of the gateways is no longer connected.

Now, do you get it.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#32  If you don't think Michael Savage is an independent, ask him yourself. Read his books, he chastises Bush plenty of times, on a variety of issues.

So does Pat Buchanan, but I wouldn't call either an "independent conservative".

'scuse me - I gotta lie down (my sides hurt).
Posted by: Pappy || 09/27/2004 18:18 Comments || Top||

#33  Hi ya Rex we missed ya!
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 18:50 Comments || Top||

#34  I always did get it PR, except for the fact that you're the one with the disconnect. You may not be a troll, but you haven't impressed me with your "coming out" today. I can't believe that you've been lurking here for months without saying anything -- it's not your nature. So was that a lie, or did you just come unglued today for some reason?
Posted by: Tom || 09/27/2004 19:15 Comments || Top||

Southeast Asia
JI trying to emulate Chechen terrorist tactics
Indonesian radical groups with links to the Jemaah Islamiah terrorist network have produced VCDs and documents on how Chechen separatists make and use land mines and bombs for their cause. This latest discovery has sparked fears among regional intelligence agencies that JI militants in Indonesia may pick up the more aggressive tactics used by the Chechen terrorists. Regional intelligence agencies have also pursued leads that at least three JI leaders from Indonesia had travelled to Chechnya, possibly to establish links with Chechen fighters.

The terrorism material, believed to be in at least 24 VCDs titled Neraka Rusia (Russia's Hell), surfaced at rallies and meetings in Indonesia conducted by groups such as Komite Aksi Penanggulangan Akibat Krisis (Kompak), a militia group in which many JI members are said to be involved. They were also distributed at meetings involving the Majlis Mujahideen Indonesia (MMI) headed by Indonesian cleric Abubakar Ba'asyir, who is about to face terrorism charges, and Wahdah Islamiah. Abubakar, who is now detained in Indonesia, has been accused of being involved in the direct activities of the JI while Wahdah Islamiah is a group based in Makassar, Sulawesi.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/27/2004 2:43:30 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

Clues to JI/Chechnya link
Former Jemaah Islamiah (JI) regional leader Nasir Abas says he has not seen any VCD on bomb making by Chechens and neither has he heard of any JI member going to Chechnya. When contacted in Jakarta, he said he also did not come across any Chechen while undergoing training in Camp Sadr in Afghanistan. However, when The Star revealed the name of a JI leader who had travelled to Chechnya, he admitted knowing the person and was aware of his terrorist activities.
Okay, ya got me. So what?
Nasir, who has admitted to smuggling arms and training JI members in Mindanao, southern Philippines, was jailed for 10 months in Indonesia for immigration offences. He is now assisting Indonesian authorities to track and rehabilitate JI members.

With little information available on links between the JI and the Chechens, investigators have probed deeper into the discovery of VCDs and documents on how Chechen separatists make and use land mines and bombs. This comes following reports that at least three JI leaders from Indonesia who are on the run have gone to Chechnya in support of their cause to set up an Islamic state in Russia. One of them has been implicated in the Bali bombing in Indonesia in 2002 that killed at least over 200 people. The fugitive is said to have close links with former al-Qaeda regional director Hambali, who is now in an unknown location under the custody of the United States.

Last week, the Singapore Straits Times reported that al-Qaeda leader Mohd Mansour Jabarah @ Sammy, who is also being held by the United States, was believed to have confessed to security officials that he was inspired by the Chechen cause. The militant, a Canadian of Arab descent, had planned to bomb Western targets in Singapore with local JI leaders. According to news reports, he had spent hours on the Internet searching for information on the Chechen cause.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/27/2004 2:42:01 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

Lebanon's Top al-Qaida Operative Dies
The alleged top al-Qaida operative in Lebanon, who was captured last week in a security operation that broke up a terrorist network, died of a heart attack Monday, hospital and security officials said. Ismail Mohammed al-Khatib was rushed from his prison cell to the Bahanes Hospital, 30 kilometers northeast of Beirut, after suffering a heart attack, but doctors were unable to save his life, hospital officials said. Lebanese security officials confirmed Khatib's death of a heart attack. Khatib was one of two top operatives of al-Qaida organization captured by Lebanese authorities last week along with 10 other suspects. The other one was Ahmed Salim Mikati.
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 3:09:26 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Must have had a very trying week.......
Posted by: Anonymous6689 || 09/27/2004 15:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I never heard of so many terrorists dying (mostly in Pakland) in a span of three weeks. It is about time, dammit. Bush is finally starting to become a war president. BTW, I love the plier and the dancing virgin graphics.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Another al Qaeda tool gets tooled up. TASTY!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/27/2004 15:27 Comments || Top||

#4  hmmmm must've got all these localized burns from the Cardio-paddles, too! Wonder why they used them on his genitals?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 15:27 Comments || Top||

#5  "Heart attack", indeed! Interrogation sessions can be hard on the ol' ticker...
Posted by: borgboy || 09/27/2004 15:28 Comments || Top||

#6  "Dying of a heart attack..."
Putin says he will go anywhere.
Sounds like a Russian M.O.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/27/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#7  inshallah. allan's will.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#8  All the new pictures are priceless.
Posted by: Crikey || 09/27/2004 17:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Guess they should cut down on Big Macs. Too bad they couldn't get him to Clinton's hospital.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/27/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#10  "Muhamad, I told you to use the little battery!"

Yes the pliers and Rasinettes are great.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#11  hmmmm must've got all these localized burns from the Cardio-paddles, too! Wonder why they used them on his genitals?
Actually the doctor was kinda drunk and kept using the Cardio Paddles on his balls expecting them to start beating. The effect was however catastrophic on Ismail's heart and he passed away shortly afterwards. Meanwhile the doctor was found to be pissing on Ismail's grave some 15 hours later and declined to answer questions.
Posted by: Fawad || 09/27/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

Old Patriot...
OldPatriot.blogspot.com. Go ye there now. Check it out, and leave a comment or two.
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 8:29:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cool! Thanx, Fred!

Look out, OP - the trolls are coming, too, heh.
Posted by: .com || 09/27/2004 20:41 Comments || Top||

#2  All I get is a blank page.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Oops,clicked on the title not the link.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||

#4  *Thumbs up* The speed with which his blog went on my blogroll was probably exceeded only by Dr. Hanson.
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2004 20:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Congrats, OP! :-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/27/2004 22:50 Comments || Top||

Juvenile Suicide Bomber Apprehended
It is now permitted to report that IDF troops operating in PA-controlled Shechem apprehended a 15-year-old suicide bomber, preventing yet another fatal attack.
15 years old. We're reaching down pretty far into the dregs of the Yasserjugend...
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 2:58:18 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who knows, maybe this person can be saved and could lead a somewhat normal life, I doubt it, but you never know. I wonder if any research was done on the lives of Hitleryugend post WW2......
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Nope...remember some time back when they picked up 2 pre-teen boys with knives lurking around the edges of that settlement, looking for Israelis to kill? (which one, you ask? I don't know -- geography is not on my skill-set list) Or the mentally retarded lad disarmed at the checkpoint, who'd been told his only chance to get laid would be by the houris in Paradise? Or that poor mother equipped by her lover and driven by her husband to the staging point (or was it equipped by husband, driven by lover...my memory is not what it once was)?

For years all they've had is dregs -- the nice people left for greener, and safer, pastures long since.

As for Hitlerjugend lads, it depends how much they believed at the time. I have a friend who was too young not to join, but he is of an analytic turn of mind and knew that his Jewish schoolmates were not monsters as he'd been taught. After the surrender he found a cache of books that he saved, because he wanted to be able to present concrete witness to contradict the claimed innocence of the adults around him. He gave me one, to be my own concrete piece of shared history.

Others grew up to discriminate against Turkish guestworkers and Gypsies, for lack of Jewish Untermenschen to play with.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/27/2004 21:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Man 15 year old wants to get 72 virgins, thats sad. These people must be watching a lot of porn. Leaves a bad imression on young minds.
Posted by: Fawad || 09/27/2004 21:58 Comments || Top||

CNN Producer Kidnapped
Armed Palestinians seized an Israeli Arab producer for the CNN television network from a car in Gaza City on Monday after asking for him by name. There was no immediate claim of responsibility. A CNN correspondent who was in the vehicle with the producer, Riyad Ali, said the gunmen gave no clue why they were taking his colleague away. "We were going up a main street and a white Peugeot drove in front of us. A young man got out of his car, pulled a gun out of trousers and said ... 'Which one of you is Riyad,"' the correspondent, Ben Wedemen said in a CNN broadcast from Gaza. "He said, 'I am Riyad,' and they said, 'Get out of the car."'

Such incidents involving journalists have been rare in Gaza and in the West Bank during the past four years of Israeli-Palestinian violence. "There were several men who got out of this car. Some of them had AK-47 assault rifles, others, pistols," Wedemen said. "They made no attempt to conceal their faces. They took Riyad out of the car and drove him away. We're obviously burning up the phone lines, contacting anyone who might know anything about this. But at this point we have no information about Riyad's whereabouts." Asked whether the abductors had given any clue why they were seizing Ali, who was identified by fellow journalists in Gaza as an Israeli Arab, Wedemen said: "These men were not very communicative. They just asked which one of you is Riyad, and that was it." He said the gunmen looked like "your average Gazan of their age, which was somewhere in their early 20's." In a statement, CNN said: "We are working actively for Riyad's safe return and are in touch with his family, offering us our full support during this difficult time. "We have not yet heard from his abductors, but urge them to release Riyad immediately. He is a veteran journalist of the highest integrity."


This Comes to mind

And they came for the MSM...
Posted by: BigEd || 09/27/2004 2:57:59 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "This Comes to Mind"

Amen, Brother.

You (CNN) can have snake (Plaeo) for a pet so long before it bites and kills you. Good for CNN (the anti-Semite bastards).
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks for posting that, PR. I had a "discussion" with a fellow Rantburger a few weeks back where this would have fit nicely in another argument, and I couldn't remember the author's name.
Posted by: jules 187 || 09/27/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#3  ARGGGH! Not PR, BigEd.
Posted by: jules 187 || 09/27/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||

#4  "Such incidents involving journalists have been rare in Gaza and in the West Bank during the past four years of Israeli-Palestinian violence."
Depends how you define 'rare'.

I think I know why they kidnapped him. After the Beslan horror, CNN started using the 'terrorist' word. For a few days their newscasts were full of it. The Paleos want to grill this guy to find out why. Another possibility is that they're copying Iraq. Since the CNN guy is an Israeli Arab, he's fair game in the eyes of the Paleos.
Posted by: Bryan || 09/27/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Palestinian terrorists bite hand that feeds strokes them OFF.

In other news, bear and Pope. Tape at 11:00.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/27/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#6  It smelleth like Kamel Prophet
Posted by: Leftenant Gov Curb || 09/27/2004 15:56 Comments || Top||

#7  In other news, bear and Pope

Does the Pope sh*t in the woods?
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Probably just a CNN/Hamas operational summit meeting so they can co-odinate coverage of the next few booms. You know, select the busses to blow up, civilians to murder and rape, and disco's to boom...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2004 16:40 Comments || Top||

#9  I fully believe they think CNN isn't biased enough in their favor.

Honestreporting.com consistenly reports about how pressure is put on the media to make sure they don't report bad things. And they threaten them with death, not just lack of access.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Does the Pope sh*t in the woods?

When he's camping. Don't you?

Posted by: trailing wife || 09/27/2004 21:28 Comments || Top||

Israeli Troops Kill Senior Al-Aqsa Brigades Leader
Israeli occupation forces yesterday assassinated Jihad Hassan Abu Naeem 34, a senior leader of Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Fatah movement in the city of Salfet north of West Bank. Witnesses said an explosive device had been planted for him.
"Yeah? Whaddya want?"
"You Jihad Hassan Abu Naeem?"
"Yeah. What's it to ya?"
"Got a package for ya! Sign here!"
"Hmmm... Wonder what it could be? Hey! This is a bomb! I didn't order a bomb! [KABOOM!]"
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 1:12:44 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's nice to see talented people taking such pleasure in their jobs. Happy hunting!
Posted by: BH || 09/27/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#2  This is some prolific whacking - almost like when an adolescent kid intercepts mom's new Victorias Secret catalog... Sorry.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL SH. Good times indeed.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 19:01 Comments || Top||

CNN employee kidnapped in Gaza
An armed group has kidnapped an Arab-Israeli employee of CNN news network in the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera television reports. "Our correspondent in Gaza said an armed group has kidnapped an Arab who works as an assistant producer for the CNN team in Gaza," the channel said on Monday without giving further details.
Posted by: Lux || 09/27/2004 1:10:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How does Al J know it's not one of their own?
Posted by: Anonymous6682 || 09/27/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Haaretz: The Palestinian Authority is in contact with the armed men in an attempt to negotiate his release

negotiating with kidnappers. sheesh.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's the cherry on top--(fictional, at least for now)

CNN (the network of national apology) demands the Bush administration restart the peace talks between Israel and Palestine, to comply with the terms of hostage release.
Posted by: jules 187 || 09/27/2004 14:29 Comments || Top||

#4  We will put it in a Red Folder™ and will stack the folder in the pile with the rest of the things that we must do.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2004 15:16 Comments || Top||

#5  What can the PLA demand from CNN that the network hasn't already given them for free?
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2004 17:04 Comments || Top||

#6  SH-An election. ;)
Posted by: jules 187 || 09/27/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Tell CNN to take it up with thier old buddy Saddam.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2004 18:38 Comments || Top||

Afghanistan/South Asia
Report: Zawahiri nabbed in Pakistan?
Top Bin Laden deputy Ayman al-Zawahri has been caught in Pakistan, according to a report from the region quoted on Israel Radio Monday. Pakistani forces operating against al Qaida strongholds in the country report capturing the Egyptian national, who was formerly the head of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, which operated in the past against the Egyptian regime. Earlier Monday, the US commander of coalition forces in Afghanistan Lieutenant-General David Barno told Reuters that there is little evidence of al Qaida fighters still in Afghanistan, and that Pakistan's crackdown on al Qaida-linked operatives has made life harder for fugitives hiding in tribal areas near the Afghan - Pakistani border.
Fat Lady standing by, warming up in the wings, awaiting confirmation from at least one more source...
Democrats on standby too, warming up "I question the timing" meme...
Posted by: oldowan || 09/27/2004 12:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'll believe it when I see his head on a pike.
Posted by: Spot || 09/27/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Old Spook, pls enlighten:

Why would they announce it as soon as they've caught him, thereby tipping off any cells he's operationally connected to?

If we has been caught, surely it would have happened months ago, right?
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess this is better than the last time, when they had him surrounded and were "really, really certain" that they could catch him. But I'm not taking the wine out of the box yet.
Posted by: BH || 09/27/2004 13:16 Comments || Top||

#4  I saw this on Allahpundit this morning. It's possible but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Posted by: Secret Master || 09/27/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#5  5-1 against. I hope to lose money.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#6  But he would look nice in a dangling cage during the first TV debate, right?
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/27/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||

#7  That would be a thing of beauty...we could even be nice and give John Kerry some spitballs!
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/27/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#8  24 hour rule.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#9  Paki officials, via Reuters: "it ain't true."
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#10  damn
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#11  That's why no screamer, no Fat Lady.

Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#12  These reports come out to keep the AQ cells jumpy as well as to vex rb'ers.
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/27/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#13  I've learned to keep my ululator in its case until we get the Magic Three Independent Sources of Verification Form presented to Fred for his scrutiny and signature. That way I don't have to clean it up and recoat it with cosmolene.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#14  Democrats on standby too, warming up "I question the timing" meme...
Ter-RAY-sa is allready piping that horn. And of course the Dimocrats would want us to release him again until after the election......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Link for the Reuters denial?
Posted by: Anonymous6687 || 09/27/2004 14:52 Comments || Top||

#16  looked for it on JPost (original link) and there's no followup, so I think it's not true...
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#17  And suddenly this on CNN, I'm starting to wonder.......
Posted by: Heysenbergwashere || 09/27/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#18  My sources say that CNN sources include "H" a large, yet sympathetic rabbit.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Dunno, maybe someone (perv) cant resist the urge to brag just a little...... It's probably nothing but I still get a warm fuzzy feeling when I imagine the U.S. doing a Khalid Sheikh Mohammed on Osama's or Al-Z's ass.
Posted by: Heysenbergwashere || 09/27/2004 15:56 Comments || Top||

#20  The only thing I want to see is the Uday/Kusay treatment. Glass window display. There better not be a dog and pony trial.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#21  this is really really weird. I saw the reuters link and thought I posted it (#9, above). My technical proficiency is lacking, to say the least. So when I returned and didn't see it, I went back to re-find it. Can't find it. Anywhere. I'm not crazy. Mostly.

Now, when you go to the Jpost site and do a search, it's not to be found, either. News.google.com references two articles, both of which use the jpost as the source.

dammit. if only it were true.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#22  you kill zawahiri without arresting him you dont get intel. You bag him and interrogate, you get probably a huge amount of intell. You want to capture the SOB's alive, wherever possible.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#23  agreed, LH. Although it seems to me a slow beheading with a dull blade would be sweet justice. al-jizz can report it, and it can be shown on lots of websites.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/27/2004 16:40 Comments || Top||

#24  This is an endrun around the Kerry campaign. Theresa says Bin Laden in October, instead we get Zawahiri in September. Also Kerry's throat problems last week was the result of a CIA hit.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#25  I wonder what "Baghdad Bob-Dan Rather" has to say about this??
Posted by: The Ol Prof || 09/27/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||

#26  Any real leakage would be at least 2 weeks and at most 4 weeks after the capture of a HVT. Any confirmation and announcement would be the same time frame + 3 to 5 days.

The preference would be to hold them incommunicado indefinitly, but the most useful stuff that coudl be compromised would be gathered within a couple weeks - 1 week to break them, the other to gather data and implement plans to take advantage.

The big value comes in extracting data over the long haul - cross checking, indexing, requestioning, etc. Thats why the guys at Gitmo were held for so long.

Holding an underling who can go missing for months is valuable (due to the "cellular" nature of the lowest levels). Think about how law enforcement borke the mafia - not by getting the big bosses, but by weaving together the borken lower levels until they had a net to get the Godfathers with.

But, as far as holding a HVT and not letting anyone know, its really not all that productive past a few weeks. An organization such as Al Qaeda would generally be able to detect the missing leadership by such time and would implement contingency plans to minimize vulnerabilities within 2-3 weeks.

So the whole "October Surprise" is unlikely unless we are in the act of capturing an HVT right now or within the next 2 weeks.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/27/2004 20:05 Comments || Top||

In Pakistan, dead men tell no tales
Still more on the even later Farooqi...
...Asia Times Online contacts, however, are adamant that Farooqi was in fact arrested some months ago, and that the "incident" resulting in his death in the southern Pakistani city of Nawabshah was in fact stage-managed by Pakistani security forces.

Pakistan's establishment recently labeled Amjad Farooqi al-Qaeda's mastermind in the country. However, Asia Times Online contacts say that, certainly, Amjad was wanted in connection with the murder of Pearl in Karachi in 2002. The contacts claim, though, that Amjad was in fact a "stand-alone" operator who did not draw support from any one organization as he was able to gather his own manpower and financial resources. Senior intelligence officers told Asia Times Online that while Farooqi was a stand-alone operator, he carried out specific operations in conjunction with local and foreign elements.

In the Punjab police criminal investigation department's "red book", Farooqi is serialized as No 1497 under the name of Amjad Hussain alias Farooqi, alias Haider Ali, son of Mohammed Afzal, a 30-year-old standing five feet seven inches (170 centimeters). He is listed as coming from Toba Taik Singh, but southern Punjab has been his main playing field. He was last seen in Karachi's Quaidabad suburb in the Tariq Hotel, on the same day that Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, a leading Sunni cleric, was assassinated. Farooqi was at some stage a member of the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi, a banned group of sectarian assassins who target Shi'ite Muslims.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: tipper || 09/27/2004 12:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

Another Vehicle Heli-Zapped In Gaza
An Israeli helicopter fired a missile at a Palestinian vehicle traveling in the southern Gaza Strip on Monday, killing one person and wounding three others, Palestinian hospital officials said. The attack targeted a pickup truck in Abbassam, east of the town of Khan Younis. The officials said the vehicle belonged to a member of the Popular Resistance Committees, which includes several militant groups. Witnesses reported an Israeli helicopter circling overhead after an explosion in the area. The Israeli military did not comment on the report. Israel has carried out a number of attacks in the Khan Younis area since a Palestinian mortar attack killed an Israeli woman in the nearby Jewish settlement of Neve Dekalim last Friday.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 12:11:47 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Alan is going to have to crank out some more dancing virgin sheep (from Virginia) at this rate.... Do you think he's up to it?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||

#2  that picture of the dancing women is so spot on, any chance of an animated version,i'm guessing an ametuer computer artist could do it in no time, hey set it to an arabian jingle to, perhaps with the didtant drone of an Apache's rotors in the distance :)
Posted by: Shep UK || 09/27/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#3  update:
An IAF aircraft fired several missiles at a car traveling in the Abasan neighborhood south of Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip Monday afternoon.

Mohammed Suleiman Abu Nasira, a local terrorist leader and the target of the attack, was rushed to a hospital in critical condition, Palestinian hospital officials said. He was seriously burned and threatened revenge from his hospital bed.

"The (Israeli) crimes will not pass without punishment," he told The Associated Press by telephone. "I will continue my mission to terrorize the enemy (Israel), and we will win the battle."

A second terrorist, Ali Al Shaer, 26, was killed, hospital officials said. Abu Nasira is the local commander of the Popular Resistance Committees in Khan Younis. The Committees is an umbrella group of terrorist organizations that has claimed responsibility for two bombing attacks on Israeli tanks. Al Shaer also belonged to the group.

sounds like the hospital bed needs a hellfire adjustment
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 13:21 Comments || Top||

#4  What room gets the GPS arrangement?
Posted by: FTD || 09/27/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

U.S. Jets Pound Sadr City
U.S. jets pounded suspected Shiite militant positions in the Baghdad slum of Sadr City on Monday, killing at least five people and wounding 40. Elsewhere, insurgents detonated a car bomb and fired rockets, killing at least four National Guardsmen, in separate attacks targeting Iraq's beleaguered security forces. The airstrikes in Sadr City, a hotbed of insurgents loyal to renegade Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, struck several "positively identified" militant hideouts, the U.S. military said. Residents said explosions lit up the sky for hours before dawn. Mangled vehicles, debris and shards of glass littered the streets.

Five people were killed and 40 were wounded — including 15 women and nine children, said Dr. Qassem Saddam of the Imam Ali hospital. At least two children wrapped in bloodstained bandages rested in hospital beds and one man suffered burns from head to toe. Insurgents also fired three mortar rounds at a nearby U.S. Army base, but the shells fell short and exploded in a civilian neighborhood, said U.S. Army spokesman Lt. Col. Jim Hutton. It was not immediately known if there any casualties. "While maintaining security is a primary concern, we are also very concerned about ... putting the innocent residents of eastern Baghdad at risk," Hutton said. "The enemy shows no concern for the Iraqi people."
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2004 9:52:20 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't believe Dr Qassem Saddam is *ahem* an objective source. If, however, there were women and children hurt it is the fault of the cowardly Islamic Heroes™ who hide behind innocents. Pussies
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#2  I hate to admit it, because I'm a very sympathetic person, but in the last year, with all of the beheadings and insanity from the fanatics, I'm getting numb on the reports of the casualties of women and children. Not that I don't think they are sad - but to put it in perspective - 60,000 innocents die here in the US from car accidents. I wish it weren't so - but it is. Though each individual instance is terribly sad - 60,000 car accidents as a whole, just doesn't register on the pity meter anymore. Cars are necessary and I can't fix the problem - so what will be, will be.

The only thing that I still get outraged over is the fanatics deliberate targeting of women and children. FM
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#3  On top of that, you have the Communist News Network and Most Socialist NBC showing video of Iraqeee's (terrorists) pulling kids out of the rubble.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Troll clean-up on Row 3.
Posted by: SR-71 || 09/27/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#5  SR-71 2004-09-27, Why do I have to be a troll? If I am a troll, then Colin Powell is a troll. He just came out and said that the Iraq situation is getting worse, during an election year.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#6  getting numb on the reports of the casualties of women and children

Same here. But to me that's not bad-- just another sign that we're entering Phase II of this war that will last probably another decade or two.

So best to ratchet it up in Iraq, and bring the battle there to a conclusion. Get the elections going, make them rolling elections if at all possible (note to sunni bad boyz: you bomb, you lose), and move on to the other fronts. Iran's not going to be pretty either, and we're losing time.
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#7  PR: Why do I have to be a troll? If I am a troll, then Colin Powell is a troll. He just came out and said that the Iraq situation is getting worse, during an election year.

Because Colin Powell was doing his blood, sweat, toil and tears bit, and PR is doing his Iraq is a quagmire schtick. Powell is basically saying it will get worse before it gets better, and PR is saying that this is Little Big Horn all over again.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/27/2004 12:45 Comments || Top||

#8  He's not necessarily a troll. No problem with calling Iraq a "quagmire", if you like, PR, but please tell us precisely why you're voting FOR Kerry.

As a hawkish Democrat I find utterly no reason to vote for such an obvious poseur and opportunist. He's worse than Carter, and if by some miracle (say, gas prices spiking by 50 cents at the pump in coming weeks) he pulls this out, I have absolutely no confidence that Kerry has the faintest idea what to do in Iraq or Iran. The idiotic mantra about getting non-existent support from the French, or referring all to the UN, will not cut it in the big leagues.

Bush has learned from his team's mistakes with the postwar. Kerry and his team are still living in the early 1980s, and the mistakes they make will be catastrophic.
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#9  hi hap! lhr sends regards!
blood for eleanor!
Posted by: half || 09/27/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#10  tee hee - you funny, hap
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#11  "Bush has learned from his team's mistakes with the postwar. Kerry and his team are still living in the early 1980s, and the mistakes they make will be catastrophic"

lex 2004-09-27, I also thought that Bush learned from this mistakes, but I am angry that he let Tater go. You cannot fight terror by letting Sadr live. I hear now that Bush is going full throtle after the terrorists in Iraq. According to the CIA and NIE, Iraq is a failed experiment. Even Robert Novak, a conservative, wrote an article that Bush is going to cut and run after the election. I am going to wait and see what happens (how many terrorist leaders he will kill) or is this just an election year ploy.

BTW, I think Carter is the reason for all this mess. I believe Carter sold this country down the river. Carter put in power, the Iranian Mullas that we have to deal with now. In turn supporting Hezbollah, the most dangerous terrorist group.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#12  novak was antiwar from the beginning - hes a paleocon, and a deep israel hater (a jew who converted to Christianity no less)
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#13  Dr. Qassem Saddam of the Imam Ali hospital, baby duck, kitten and puppy clinic. I put no credit in these statements. The fact is these terrorst live with their property/women and children. Getting them is not pretty. On the other hand how many inocent Iraqi's have these creeps killed?

BTW Iraq has a huge number of hospitals. The one here where I live was closed and the nearist one is 35 miles away. Thank you CHW you greedy bastards.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#14  amen, LH - I've heard him spout the Neocon (Jooooos!) lines so often that I turn him off any time he refers to Foreign Affairs. I already know whathe'll say
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#15  I look at it this way. The terrs are responsible for bringing the wrath on the city. The collateral damage incurred does not involve a long brutal procedure in which a guy is kidnapped and his family is shown a video of his beheading a bomb does not make the family beg for mercy or pit the people against one another. It is brutal but swift and ulitmately more mercifull than the kidnapping / be heading episode. Both are innocent.
If we wannah avoid more psin and suffering we should just bomb a fucking city to ground no one left nothing to take out of rubble it will be still more merciful.
Posted by: Fawad || 09/27/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#16  "If we wannah avoid more psin and suffering we should just bomb a fucking city to ground no one left nothing to take out of rubble it will be still more merciful"

Fawad 2004-09-27, You are talking my language, now.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#17  PR = we dont know whats in the NIE, the MSM seem to have themselves only seen excerpts, probably biased by their source. In any case its role was to lay out worst case scenarios - a good idea. Dont see they spent much time in detailing how much slow short run improvement there might be.

As for Sadr, i know everyone who wants his blood was disappointed. But his troops are cleared out from najaf, where many died. Theyre steadily being killed in Sadr city, Najaf, and elsewhere. More importantly several of his lieutenants have been arrested, and hes on the run. And Sistani is happy with how it worked out and is supporting the Allawi govt.

Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#18  All eyes on Sistani. His support is the key to the country's transition. If Sistani's favoring Allawi, then things are moving in the right direction.
Posted by: lex || 09/27/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#19  PR-why are you including today's date with everyone's name--bad mouse ball or coincidental flagging?
Posted by: jules 187 || 09/27/2004 15:01 Comments || Top||

#20  jules

Bad mouseball. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||

#21  It was either Lenin,or Stalin that said(paraphrase)"1 death is a tragedy,10,000 a catastrophy,1 million deaths is a stastistic".
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2004 18:20 Comments || Top||

#22  So how are the death camps at DU PR?
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||

#23  when is dr saddam gonn a mention the 50 or so insurgents thAt got vaporized as being casualties too?
Posted by: smokeysinse || 09/27/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

Israel launches sweeps in Jenin
The Israeli army poured into the West Bank city of Jenin on Monday, sparking firefights with Palestinians. Witnesses said as many as 70 armoured vehicles took part in the raid on the town and the nearby refugee camp. Elsewhere, three Palestinians were reported to have been killed by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli army said two of them were militants, shot near Jebaliya refugee camp as they crawled towards the Gaza security fence carrying explosives. The third man killed, according to Palestinian medics and security sources, was a civilian, aged 55-66, who was shot by the gate of a school in Khan Yunis refugee camp.
Note the absence of 'sneer' marks when describing a move by the IDF - They poured in - how many battallions poured in? An entire division? Note they fail to mention personal details of the militants shot - choosing to highlight instead the death of an older gent by a school. Mmmm... more hyperbole from Aunty.
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/27/2004 6:31:25 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's gonna be a massakree!
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 10:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey..god bless them. I love reading this stuff - even with their stupid sneer marks and hyperbole. Bottom line - Israel is snuffing out the bad guys.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  GO Israel GO, GO GO....Don't worry about the U.S. Stink Department or the PeeeEU. Destroy everyone of the terrorist Paleo's. I wish this time, that Bush shuts his mouth, concerning this incursion (destruction).

It has been a long time coming, but me thinks, Bush finally realizes that there are Paleo's, Saudi's, Iraninan's, and Syrian's in Iraq killing U.S. soldiers and he is tired of it.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 09/27/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

US arrests senior Iraqi commander
A senior member of the Iraqi National Guard is in custody after being arrested for suspected links with insurgents, the US military has said. Gen Talib al-Lahibi, in charge of security for Diyala province north-east of Baghdad, was detained on Thursday. He was appointed to the post only a week ago. The Iraqi National Guard is recruited and trained by the US, which is attempting to build up a local force able to ensure security in the country.
We knew there'd be a few like this.
"Lahibi was detained by multinational forces on 23 September for having associations with known insurgents," a US military statement said. Gen Lahibi, who served in Saddam Hussein's army, is the most senior member of the new Iraqi security forces to be detained on suspicion of collaborating with militants. He commanded three battalions in the area around the town of Baquba. The US appointed him last week after he had been nominated by fellow guardsmen to replace his predecessor, who was assassinated in August. Baquba, 65km (40 miles) north-east of Baghdad, has been a frequent flashpoint for clashes with militants. Gen Lahibi's arrest underlines the difficulties the Americans have in building up an Iraqi security force able to take over from US soldiers, reports the BBC's Caroline Hawley from Baghdad. There are no shortage of recruits but that is mainly because there is little other employment and the Americans know they cannot always count on their loyalty, she says.

There are now 30,000 members of the Iraqi National Guard across Iraq, in addition to 80,000 police, according to the US military. But they are poorly trained, poorly equipped and some do not even have proper uniforms. They are also subject to daily attacks. Recruitment centres are frequently targeted by suicide bombers. Many members of the new force now travel to work in civilian clothes to hide their job from their neighbours after receiving threats to their families. If the allegations again Gen Lahibi are true, it would not be the first time members of Iraq's security forces have joined ranks with the insurgents. There are no precise figures but police and national guardsmen deserted in droves in April, reluctant to fight fellow Iraqis.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/27/2004 12:56:49 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al Beeb: But they are poorly trained, poorly equipped and some do not even have proper uniforms.

Not real different from the guerrillas they face. As to uniforms, this is the kind of thing only a "defense analyst" from al Beeb could come up with. The Continental Army fought the Revolutionary War without much in the way of uniforms either. Heck - the guerrillas have stashes of the old Iraqi army uniforms. What the heck do uniforms have to do with combat effectiveness? These aren't parade ground troops, for goodness sake. Al Beeb's ignorance, intellectual arrogance, stupidity and sheer laziness shines through again.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/27/2004 9:55 Comments || Top||

#2  And you'd think the Brits, after the tussle with the Boers, would know that uniforms mean nothing.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 09/27/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#3  saw something interesting. the grunts among the friendlies may be as good as among the hostiles, but the NCO's and officers are weaker. Reason - most of the old Iraqi army officers and many of the NCO's went with the insurgents. We're training up privates real fast, but it takes more time to build up leadership.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  this is good - cause they will make this guy talk and I'm sure he has lots to tell us.
Posted by: 2B || 09/27/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

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Pakistan al-Qaeda suspect killed
More on the late Farooqi...
Pakistan says it has dealt a major blow to al-Qaeda's operations after its security forces shot dead the country's most wanted terror suspect. Officials named him as Amjad Farooqi, wanted in connection with assassination attempts on Pakistan's president and the murder of US reporter Daniel Pearl. He was killed in a two-hour gun battle at a house in Nawabshah in the southern province of Sindh, the officials said. At least three men were killed in the shoot-out, they added.

The BBC's Paul Anderson in Islamabad says that for the Pakistani authorities, all roads to al-Qaeda activities in their country lead to Amjad Farooqi. Our correspondent says he was accused of planning and providing foot-soldiers for several operations bankrolled by the network, including the two attempts to assassinate President Pervez Musharraf. "I can confirm that Amjad Farooqi has been killed," said Information Minister Sheikh Rashid. He said three important terror suspects had also been arrested. Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao told AP news agency that three Pakistani men arrested in the operation were "possibly involved in terrorist activities inside the country". "We can't confirm their identities yet," he said.

Amjad Farooqi, also known as Amjad Hussain, had a 20 million rupee ($330,000) price on his head. Security officials described him as an "extremely intelligent and elusive terrorist operative," who had set up militant cells which worked independently from each other. He was said to be a close associate of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, described as the operational chief of al-Qaeda in the region, who is also wanted in connection with the assassination attempts on President Musharraf.

The gunmen put up a "very strong" fight, firing wildly at security officials with automatic weapons, an official told AFP news agency. Another official said one of the gunmen killed said he would prefer death to arrest and had pointed to the sky, shouting: "Rosebud!" "I fulfilled my promise to Allah." The attempts to assassinate President Musharraf were made last December. In one, a bridge was blown up as he travelled to his official army residence in Rawalpindi. In the other, suicide bombers driving cars packed with explosives tried to ram his motorcade. Amjad Farooqi once maintained close contacts with Khalid Sheikh Mohammad - al-Qaeda's alleged number three figure, who was arrested near Islamabad last year. He was also indicted for involvement in the kidnapping in 2002 and subsequent beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.
Posted by: tipper || 09/27/2004 3:17:55 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, well; Musharraf can be efficient and thorough when it comes to protecting his own hide!
Posted by: smn || 09/27/2004 4:04 Comments || Top||

#2  So, was Farooqi caught getting some nookie?
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2004 8:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Dancing raisins or fat lady? - I can't wait for Fred to rouse from his slumber. I go fat lady.
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/27/2004 8:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Raisins - bugger.
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/27/2004 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5  someone must have a dancing Virginians pic somewhere, no?

News this AM that Pakis made follow up arrests - must of grabbed alot of info at Farooqis place. Lets hope something leads them toward Al Libbi.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 09/27/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#6  How about 72 dancing fat ladies (from Virginia...)?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2004 9:26 Comments || Top||

#7  For some reason I just got this flash in my mind - 72 dancing Rosie O'Donnel clones...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

Explosion Hits U.S. Embassy In Baghdad During Udall Visit
A rocket exploded and another was detonated at the U.S. Embassy complex in Baghdad Sunday as Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colo., and four other members of Congress were visiting, Udall's spokesman confirmed. "They're fine," said Lawrence Pacheco, calling it a mortar attack but adding the group was never in any danger and later left for Jordan as scheduled. Udall, fellow Democrat Rep. Stephanie Herseth of South Dakota, Republican Reps. Tom Osborne of Nebraska, Ernest Istook of Oklahoma and Scott Garrett of New Jersey were in Iraq to learn firsthand about U.S. rebuilding efforts.

Herseth told The Associated Press the delegation attended a scheduled briefing and didn't learn of the attack and explosion until after. "We were in the basement. And the rocket that was launched into the embassy complex was about 500 meters from where we were," she said. An unexploded round was detonated hours after the first explosion, Herseth said. "(Udall) did have some trepidation about going into a war zone, but he really felt that he needed to be on the ground to see our operations there," Pacheco said. "That would help inform him as he makes decisions about U.S. policy and involvement in the region."
More than Kerry and Edwards have done.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2004 12:24:20 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  BFD. 1/3 of a mile miss and they were protected by walls and a basement. Though if Kerry were there, he would insist on a Purple Heart.
Posted by: ed || 09/27/2004 1:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Mods remove Anon's post - its a "page stretcher" - artifically widens the page, designed to disruppt the readability fo the board.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/27/2004 1:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Aisle #1, pest control alert! Improper use of HR tag beside the display of a massive inferiority complex.
Posted by: Memesis || 09/27/2004 1:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred, this poster was a deliberate attempt to disrupt rantburg. Time to put an IP ban into place.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/27/2004 1:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Hate to suggest it since I'm an "HTML repeat offender" myself, but maybe Fred should rip a page from LGF and disable everything except hyperlinking and basic text formatting. At the very least, kill the Horizontal Rule tag. That seems to be the current preferred weapon of mass disruption.
Posted by: The Caucasus Nerd || 09/27/2004 1:47 Comments || Top||

#6  It's freeking Boris the Simi valley troll.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 2:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Fred, you need a late night moderator for sequestering obviously harmful comments like Anon's (probably Boris) above? Im near the other coast. so late there isnt late here.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/27/2004 2:42 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm on the other coast too. I have some strange ideas, but I do IT well, and can fix this sort of thing.
Call if interested.
Posted by: Asedwich || 09/27/2004 2:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Is this lame attempt at private censorship the best you can do, Boris? Of course, for once in your life, you can feel a sense of belonging, since the global left seems committed now to tactics of disruption, sabotage, and intimidation as a substitute for the rational case they so pointedly lack in their pursuit of absolute power.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 09/27/2004 2:53 Comments || Top||

#10  AC their power is only good so long as they can dodge bullets. I am thinking they mostly can't.

I am on the left coast too and up very late usually. I am tolerant of other ideas but not this intentional crap. The dead give away is the "mossad" comment. The little time I have been here at Rantburg I know this is his trade marked comment. He uses mutiple IP addresses so banning IPs will not work. Only an active on duty troll killer will. Not allowing the hr or preformatted text might help.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 3:21 Comments || Top||

#11  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Anonymous6334 TROLL || 09/27/2004 6:17 Comments || Top||

#12  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Anonymous6334 TROLL || 09/27/2004 6:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Prickbitch: FOAD, you fuckwit lunatic.
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/27/2004 6:24 Comments || Top||

#14  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Anonymous6334 TROLL || 09/27/2004 6:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Boris they let you out? No wonder the LAPD wouldn't know what to do With a Serbo-Croat Bosnian child molestor (typical muslim wants to get it on with 9 year old girls.) I'll have to call the social services down in Simi valley and have them be on the look out for you.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/27/2004 6:47 Comments || Top||

#16  Prickbitch, don't you feel even a little bit ashamed that your only contribution to this site is the equivalent of that 6 year old's shitting on the floor? You act like an incontinent dysfunctional retard. What would your mother think? Or was she an incontinent dysfunctional retard too?
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/27/2004 6:55 Comments || Top||

#17  Hi BoreUs! See that your sister is having a Sale for the Albanians.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 9:26 Comments || Top||

#18  Fred: a suggestion.

Do not allow HTML in posts except for those parts you have defined - and switch to "bracket" tags like this [ ].
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/27/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#19  Moderator wise, I'm usually "on duty" around midnight Central time. I haven't been able to check in the early am, but I suppose I can start doing that. Boris (a.k.a. "Tiny Pecker") does seem to pick his moments.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2004 10:54 Comments || Top||

#20  in between watching "personality and reality implant" infomercials, eh?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#21  I meant Boris, not you, Senor Steve-O
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#22  Someone tried to take out little Mo? Who leaked? This country would be shattered by the loss of 2 much less 5 congresspeoplesoflove.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||


Our QUAGMIRE who art in QUAGMIRE, hallowed be thy QUAGMIRE, as it is in QUAGMIRE, and will be in QUAGMIRE. Amen.

Notice how the Neo-Cunts are attacking Kerry (Pig Crap Be Upon Him) while not praising the Thief-in-Chief (Handcuffs Be Upon Him)? That's telling. Now tell us about the unnecessary $450 billion deficit, that the oil-patch dypso crackpot has piled up, to create a hornet's nest in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Its time to put the Neo-Cunts out to pasture, and dust off the nukes.
Posted by: Anonymous6334 || 09/27/2004 6:17 Comments || Top||

#24  Sock Puppet:
Your mummy gave you a nice haircut. Does she ever let you out of the basement? Maybe you are afraid she'd break your Star Trek toys.
Posted by: Anonymous6334 || 09/27/2004 6:20 Comments || Top||

#25  Bullcrap:
Watch your language, there is a QUAGMIRE present.
Posted by: Anonymous6334 || 09/27/2004 6:29 Comments || Top||

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