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Kerry Goes Nuclear: Brings up the Dem Draft Scam

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Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-09-22 5:10:10 PM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I've heard that college students are being blanketed with emails claiming that Bush would re-insitute the Draft if re-elected. The emails fail to mention that the Dems are the once pushing for the draft and the Republicians are resisting.

Michelle Malkin has a comment on it in Scaring up DEM VOTES.

A mother whose daughter received the e-mail at the University of Arizona told me her "daughter said a lot of students are getting the same email and they are believing it and saying they won't vote for Bush because of it."

Betsy adds that she saw an MTV Choose or Lose ad using similar scare tactics about the draft. FReepers noticed the same ad. Max Cleland and Howard Dean are also trying to spook the kids to by playing the draft card.

No mention by these fear-mongerers that it has been Democrat Charlie Rangel pushing the draft and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld opposing it. Wouldn't want to spoil the pre-Halloween frightfest with the truth.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-09-22 6:36:58 PM|| 2004-09-22 6:36:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Idiotic. This will do about as much good for Kerry's prospects as that Word doc forgery, and willbe exposed at least as fast.

Posted by lex 2004-09-22 6:44:25 PM|| 2004-09-22 6:44:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't know. I'd be more worried about Kerry reinstituting the draft, not Bush.

I can see it now: "I was against the draft before I was for it. But I need to get people somehow to fill up these two new Army divisions."

Posted by nada 2004-09-22 6:59:29 PM|| 2004-09-22 6:59:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The RNC needs to air commercials of Democratic leaders calling for the draft and Bush and Rumsfeld saying it is not needed.

If Kerry should win, he probably will have to instate a draft because I can see a lot of the current military deciding not to reenlist or to retire early.

Posted by ed 2004-09-22 7:35:12 PM|| 2004-09-22 7:35:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Perhaps it was a mistake for the Kerry campaign to hire a bunch of ex-Baathist Generals to plot its strategy, even if they did come cheap.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-09-22 8:22:25 PM|| 2004-09-22 8:22:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Absolutely ed and quick.

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-22 9:12:10 PM|| 2004-09-22 9:12:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Anyone who looks at the facts can see that Bush isn't mixed up in this whole thing. According to http://thomas.loc.gov (the library of congress' site to find and track bills in Congress), the two draft bills which the left-media made a big deal about in the past months, S.89 and H.R.163, the former hasn't been touched in over a year and doesn't even have a cosponsor:

S.89
Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [D-SC] (introduced 1/7/2003)
Cosponsors: (None)
Related Bills: H.R.163
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2003 Referred to Senate committee.
Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

The latter bill (H.R.163), on the other hand, has 15 sponsors (and one withdrawn) and also hasn't been touched on the floor in over a year:

H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [D-NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003)
Cosponsors (14):
-Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [D-HI-1]
-Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [D-FL-3]
-Rep Christensen, Donna M. - 5/19/2004 [D-VI]
-Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [D-MO-1]
-Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [D-MI-14]
-Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [D-MD-7]
-Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [D-FL-23]
-Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. - 7/21/2004 [D-IL-2]
-Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [D-TX-18]
-Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [D-GA-5]
-Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [D-WA-7]
-Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [D-VA-8]
-Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [D-CA-13]
-Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [D-NY-12]

-Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [D-DC](withdrawn - 6/21/2004)

Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions.
Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.

So according to the John Kerry, as well as many leftist columns and sites which made the rounds in the younger portions of the voting population (particularly draft-age individuals), it's the Presidential Administration that is going to bring about the draft, but if that's the case why are there no Republican sponsors, and why is that crackpot Hollings the only Senator that will put his name by it?

Republicans have been historically against the draft, and are currently no exception to that history. By the way, the military isn't interested in the draft either. The only reason the draft board positions are being filled is because they recently expired. The Draft Board positions being filled are 20-year-term volunteer positions, and most stayed their full term, so the positions were vacated in 1999 and filling them takes a while. Not many people care to be involved with the draft board, since the draft is vastly unpopular.

These bills look like party politics to me, with the Democrats (and even very few of them) making a big, sweeping, sparsely supported draft bill in response to a president being at war, to make it seem worse than it is. Meanwhile, the liberal fringe of the media and now even John Kerry Kerry latch onto the situation and are feeding the fire by adding their own unfounded opinion on top of people's fears, especially draft-age voters. I don't think there's a lot of risk of these bills being passed, much less sponsored by President Bush in this or any other term.

The word needs to get out. I'm working on an email version of this to send out, if anybody wants to recieve the final version for dissemination please email me at cargo@systemsalchemy.org.

all data within quotes taken from .gov sites that can be easily and publicly accessed. Party information shown above was taken from the official House and Senate Directories found by clicking the corresponding links on thomas.loc.gov.

Posted by Peter 2004-09-22 10:04:38 PM|| [http://www.systemsalchemy.org] 2004-09-22 10:04:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm afraid the secret is finally out. Kerry is actually a closet member of the GOP who Grove planted there some time ago

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-09-22 10:10:35 PM|| 2004-09-22 10:10:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 no need for a draft, heck, it's hard enough training some of the volunteers we get.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-09-22 10:21:06 PM|| 2004-09-22 10:21:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 desperation move, bringing that up now, when there's time to debunk it...this should've been done a week before the election. The fact that it wasn't shows the Donks in full panic mode trying to energize their base. If they haven't done it by now, Sept 22nd, they're screwed

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-22 10:29:48 PM|| 2004-09-22 10:29:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I agree with Jarhead. Rangle has some idea that the only thing preventing the reign of Karl Marx from beginning is that not enough rich white punks have to serve as privates in the infantry.

One of the guys that works for me asked me to read an article in Playboy about how we were going to have to reinstitute the draft. I told him I wasn't interested in reading the article and certainly wasn't interested in risking termination for gettig caught thumbing through Playboy in my office.

If enlistments do drop due to the war, I would like to see some type of fastrack for citizenship for enlistees. Alternately, additional scholarships could be offered - I think a friend of mine went to BC on something called the "Squad Leader Program."

Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-23 12:47:58 AM|| 2004-09-23 12:47:58 AM|| Front Page Top

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